anavar...

[theworm]

read a study they did on people given 40mg or 80 mg x 12 weeks.  40 mg dose gained 3 pounds, and the 80mg dose group gained 5 pounds.  40mg group had a 33% decrease in HDL, and the 80 mg group had a 50% decrease.

now, keep in mind these people did not work out at all.  maybe if they did the 80 mg group could have gained 10-12 pounds... who knows.

the HDL decrease is kind of alarming though.  therefore, i think if i was going to use it with 500 mg test, i would prob use 50 mg for just 4 weeks.  maybe i will only add another 5 pounds to the cycle, but i bet strength would increase a lot too...

[steveeray]

Finally anabolic test
Some sources have been running ug test from several sports but kept results non published
good read, hopefully test do not stop AND hopefully we will come closer to drs. Not being afraid to give a script for anabolics

[Arnold jr]

Finally anabolic test
Some sources have been running ug test from several sports but kept results non published
good read, hopefully test do not stop AND hopefully we will come closer to drs. Not being afraid to give a script for anabolics

The New England Journal of Medicine has been doing AAS studies for years...I mean years and years. Probably the most credible Journal out there in the medical world with tons of studies proving the benefits of AAS use...but this has not mattered at all so far.

[Emmortal]

You have a link to the study worm?

[bassmaster]

The New England Journal of Medicine has been doing AAS studies for years...I mean years and years. Probably the most credible Journal out there in the medical world with tons of studies proving the benefits of AAS use...but this has not mattered at all so far.

AJ, looked on the site, is their a fee to read these articles? wtf

[theworm]

You have a link to the study worm?

no, it was in the august 2006 MD issue, it stated it was from an endocrine publication...

[OTHstrong]

read a study they did on people given 40mg or 80 mg x 12 weeks.  40 mg dose gained 3 pounds, and the 80mg dose group gained 5 pounds.  40mg group had a 33% decrease in HDL, and the 80 mg group had a 50% decrease.now, keep in mind these people did not work out at all.  maybe if they did the 80 mg group could have gained 10-12 pounds... who knows.

the HDL decrease is kind of alarming though.  therefore, i think if i was going to use it with 500 mg test, i would prob use 50 mg for just 4 weeks.  maybe i will only add another 5 pounds to the cycle, but i bet strength would increase a lot too...

You know exactly what that means right?...........120 mg you will gain 7 pounds and HDL will drop 66%

[theworm]

no, if people are not lifting weights and gain 5 off anavar alone,,,it tells me it works pretty damn good.  (especially in combo with 500 test x 12 weeks)

[Arnold jr]

AJ, looked on the site, is their a fee to read these articles? wtf

Yes, but many of these articles can be found on other pages that are free...just do a google search

[Tapeworm]

no, if people are not lifting weights and gain 5 off anavar alone,,,it tells me it works pretty damn good.  (especially in combo with 500 test x 12 weeks)

It tells me those guys were totally untrained.  IMO, don't expect 5lbs of muscle from var alone without any fat gain unless you've never lifted a weight in your life.

[spirospros]

pharmaceutical anavar;which one;;;

[theworm]

yeah, human grade anavar...

[4thAD]

HG or UG if its real and dosed correct it should not matter. I will always choose HG over UG, but there are good UG's also. There was a very similar study run on nandrolone that showed very similar results. I will look for it and post it up also. It also tells me that these were untrained people, dont expect these results for a trained BB'er. These drugs are probably only fixing the atrophied muscles in untrained persons.

[theworm]

yeah, but money is not an issue, why not add some var to my 500test E x 12 week cycle?  right?  prob will gain some strength and possibly 5 pounds in addition (possibly more so becuase the added strength).

[spirospros]

yeah, human grade anavar...

which one;

[4thAD]

Its probably just a compound pharma anavar, as he is on HRT!

[theworm]

got that right!