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[gh15]

Dear God, I have been away from the boards for awhile and since I have been back I have heard that you do not believe PCT is necessary. Is this true? if not what do you recomend? Nolva and hcg?

thank you for your time.

that is correct,,
gh15 does not belive in post cycle terapy simply for the mere fact that no one is ever off completely for enough time to need it ,,
in addition the whole pct doesnt help preerve anything but little water from estorgen related products,,the actual difference will be nothign between a guy on pct and a guy off pct as long as they both reduce training and continue eating ,,

the 5-10 lb you hold on you when using pct are always water weight,,mentally pct may be important since some lifter and bodybuilder need this placebo effect for their own brain issues but it has nthingto do with the physiqe,,

you will lose muscle when you stip eatin and training accordingly to your specific situation ,,

beside you take gh and you never need pct again not even the ones with the fucked up head becausse gh will make you happy and your brain will think youre the best physiqe walking around even though youre not,,

gh = prozac and zoloft

look at larry scot and mr oliva and tell me they ever did pct,, the pct thing is a joke of dealers and wanna be bodybuilder that try to sell you more things,,,its an internet phenomenon that became a norm yet hurt you more then help

gh15 approved

[Spike]

what about hcg while on a cycle --  what benefits would you see in that aside from keeping the coin purse in check??

[buffdnet]

just wanted to insert a tad bit of laughter
dunno why just had too

so your saying there is nothing that will reduce messed up
liver panel readings or if so what does.
my alt is rather in the stratosphere

[dustin]

just wanted to insert a tad bit of laughter
dunno why just had too

so your saying there is nothing that will reduce messed up
liver panel readings or if so what does.
my alt is rather in the stratosphere

PCT refers to the practice of trying to stabilize the hormonal roller coaster once cessation of anabolic steroids occurs. Your HPTA, thyroid and other hormone systems become retarded when supplied exogenously.. I'm also beginning to think that this stigma became "fact" with the introduction of message boards, amongst a slew of other retarded bodybuilding myths.

I think that PCT does have it's place but a lot of people really misunderstand things. What matters is YOUR hormones when you come off a cycle, how long you will actually be off for, etc. I do take a little HCG either on or off cycle, as well as some SERMs to raise LH, curb estrogen elevation, etc. But I don't do it with hopes that BING-BANG-BOOM, I'M RECOVERED. HALLELUJAH!! TIME TO GET IMMEDIATELY BACK ON CYCLE.. like a lot of the other cycle warriors. People look at these cookie cutter cycles and that's fine and dandy if the application is practical. Do you employ a full PCT when you're just going to get back on, or do you cruise to your next cycle, intelligently monitor your blood pressure, lipid profile, let your body chill from all the injections (I personally build up scar tissue quickly) and generally just take a small break from the stronger androgenic anabolics.


Next time I cycle I'm just going to cruise because in all honestly, while AAS are not physically addictive, I'll admit that they're mentally and conditionally addictive. Might as well just cruise to your next cycle and "cycle" intelligently, modestly and successfully... PCT ancillaries like these exotic SERMs and AIs can get as expensive as your God damn gear half the time. Aside from some AIs, a little HCG depending on the compounds I use and their duration, most other ancillaries are used too much by bodybuilders. If you actually get blood work done and think about shit in the grand scheme of things, I'm beginning to agree that PCT is a little overblown and misunderstood. Not saying it's worthless, but I think we just have the wrong idea.

[gh15]

the human body can recover from anything and fast! dont need no true protien crap my firend nor do those kids needs your stupid pct bottles you like to sell on research sites under grey area,,,

there i no need for pct,,the human body aim at omeostasis,, and thus shall always get back to initiral standards,,,some fellas severe abusers of hormones fuck themselves for ever and not because of hormones ,, in that case million units of hcg also wont help,,the ones who do it know who they are

pain killer + drinking + specific strong narcotic drugs + the homorns use will cauise permenent damage that nothing can recover,,

rest of bodybuilders recover very well,,losing 15 pounds doesnt mean you shrink to nothingness,,insted of 240 youre 225 ,,but always bigger than the 180 lb you started at,,

pct is garbage term came out of the house olds of the dantas and the tropopins that can not and will never ever win a professional card nor win any serious competition

infact the chance of many so called hormonized clubbers and dealers to nto wake up after going to sleep is much rather higher than him becoming professional,,and thats with all the pct in the world


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