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Re: Why was that GH Thread deleted?
« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2009, 03:19:31 PM »
Time is a great limitation my friend, no offense.

Experience is based on learning over time. No doubt using many different combos in a short time can teach you a thing or two, but it takes many many years to understand your body and it's reaction to drugs.

Feel free to PM me any research you might have done, i will keep it to myself and critic just to you.

I did the same for 7 years and i still learned something new with every cycle. i have medical studies that cost me thousands over a 5 year period that show some interesting things that my body went through. i even had profiles done during my surgery while i was on AAS and i still have my blood panels back from when i was 21 and drug free up until 6 weeks ago. these studies prove why i refuse to use AI's and other estrogen control drugs and also why i only use certian compounds for PCT.  ;)

I would enjoy reading your studies.

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I wish I didn't need AIs or AEs, but I'm very prone to gyno.  How do deal with it or are you one of the lucky ones who doesn't aromatize much?

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Re: Why was that GH Thread deleted?
« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2009, 03:47:52 PM »
Time is a great limitation my friend, no offense.

Experience is based on learning over time. No doubt using many different combos in a short time can teach you a thing or two, but it takes many many years to understand your body and it's reaction to drugs.

Feel free to PM me any research you might have done, i will keep it to myself and critic just to you.

I did the same for 7 years and i still learned something new with every cycle. i have medical studies that cost me thousands over a 5 year period that show some interesting things that my body went through. i even had profiles done during my surgery while i was on AAS and i still have my blood panels back from when i was 21 and drug free up until 6 weeks ago. these studies prove why i refuse to use AI's and other estrogen control drugs and also why i only use certian compounds for PCT.  ;)

I would enjoy reading your studies.

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i can tell you what ive learned


ive learned that test works best, with the exception of tren, but that i cant handle tren cough...so i will only use tren is i can get it made from pure tren powder...not from tren pellets...as i dont get tren cough unless its from fina kit made tren....ive learned that gains are faster with lots of estrogen.... ive learned that while dbol is good for gains, it kills appetite if used all day long, so its best used just pre and post workout... ive learned that anadrol makes me lethargic and depressed, winstrol does nothign for muscle gorthw but it leans me out and gets me energized in the gym... deca is good but nothing compared to test...  ive learned that carbs and insulin are extremely important for gaining as much muscle as possible... ive learned that al the durgs in the world with crap training  dont compete with a moderate amoutn of drugs ocupled with awesom intense training...  ive learned that eating a diet totally free of anti inflamatory fats increases my response to training.... ive learned that i need to rotate my training to keep making super fast progresss.... ive learned that t3 is totally safe and can be used very high doses and for very long time without causes any problems coming off use...ive learned that lutalyse(pgf2a[pgcl]) is effective but totally not worth it because of the horirble stomach cramps, illness, nausia, diarhea, etc etc.... ive learned that insulin works best for me if i use it post workout, nto pre workout, because i workout much better without the pre workout slin because with it i am too worried about drikign carbs and going into a coma... ive learned to listen to my body and ive learned that the hard way is usually the best way...


i dont know... ask me more questions and ill give more answers... i think it would be fun if you guy tried to "stump me" or tried to get interetsing info out of me based on what ive tried...


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Re: Why was that GH Thread deleted?
« Reply #27 on: May 14, 2009, 08:02:53 PM »
You know how it goes... if you don't know the answer or you get proven wrong... just delete delete delete and hope others won't notice it before it is gone.

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Re: Why was that GH Thread deleted?
« Reply #28 on: May 15, 2009, 02:13:15 AM »
You know how it goes... if you don't know the answer or you get proven wrong... just delete delete delete and hope others won't notice it before it is gone.

Was something deleted in this thread after tbombz responded?

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Re: Why was that GH Thread deleted?
« Reply #29 on: May 15, 2009, 10:30:54 AM »
Was something deleted in this thread after tbombz responded?
hell the whole thread got deleted and it was started by tbombs and there was alot of post on it also

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Re: Why was that GH Thread deleted?
« Reply #30 on: May 15, 2009, 10:45:46 AM »
Was something deleted in this thread after tbombz responded?

Yea, Overloads post is gone...

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Re: Why was that GH Thread deleted?
« Reply #31 on: May 15, 2009, 11:00:39 AM »
Yea, Overloads post is gone...
wat diid it say

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Re: Why was that GH Thread deleted?
« Reply #32 on: May 15, 2009, 12:36:29 PM »
Yea, Overloads post is gone...

That's what I thought.  WTF?

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Re: Why was that GH Thread deleted?
« Reply #33 on: May 15, 2009, 05:32:44 PM »
Yea, Overloads post is gone...

There are 2 posts by Overload on page 1 are you sure he was deleated?

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Re: Why was that GH Thread deleted?
« Reply #34 on: May 16, 2009, 02:44:55 AM »
There are 2 posts by Overload on page 1 are you sure he was deleated?

I thought there was a more recent post on the second page that dissapeared.  And, I thought that was what Lurker was referring to and Emmortal seemed to confirm it.  IDK

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Re: Why was that GH Thread deleted?
« Reply #35 on: May 19, 2009, 11:31:19 AM »
these studies prove why i refuse to use AI's and other estrogen control drugs and also why i only use certian compounds for PCT.  ;)


overload could you expand on this please ? i am very interested.
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Re: Why was that GH Thread deleted?
« Reply #36 on: May 19, 2009, 03:51:11 PM »
i can tell you what ive learned


ive learned that test works best, with the exception of tren, but that i cant handle tren cough...so i will only use tren is i can get it made from pure tren powder...not from tren pellets...as i dont get tren cough unless its from fina kit made tren....ive learned that gains are faster with lots of estrogen.... ive learned that while dbol is good for gains, it kills appetite if used all day long, so its best used just pre and post workout... ive learned that anadrol makes me lethargic and depressed, winstrol does nothign for muscle gorthw but it leans me out and gets me energized in the gym... deca is good but nothing compared to test...  ive learned that carbs and insulin are extremely important for gaining as much muscle as possible... ive learned that al the durgs in the world with crap training  dont compete with a moderate amoutn of drugs ocupled with awesom intense training...  ive learned that eating a diet totally free of anti inflamatory fats increases my response to training.... ive learned that i need to rotate my training to keep making super fast progresss.... ive learned that t3 is totally safe and can be used very high doses and for very long time without causes any problems coming off use...ive learned that lutalyse(pgf2a[pgcl]) is effective but totally not worth it because of the horirble stomach cramps, illness, nausia, diarhea, etc etc.... ive learned that insulin works best for me if i use it post workout, nto pre workout, because i workout much better without the pre workout slin because with it i am too worried about drikign carbs and going into a coma... ive learned to listen to my body and ive learned that the hard way is usually the best way...


i dont know... ask me more questions and ill give more answers... i think it would be fun if you guy tried to "stump me" or tried to get interetsing info out of me based on what ive tried...



I agree with most of what you posted but you don't have a single piece of evidence other than outer reactions/sides, you need to see how your body reacts on the "inside" with blood work.

What you experienced on the outside is important, but the levels of certian things inside your body that you cannot feel are far more important.

No need to stump you, i'd just like to see your work. You have a good basic knowledge, but have you tried your own experiments with blood work to back them?

I agree 100% with you about T3, it's a great drug to use for extended periods if you are smart about it.

Keep up the good work, but i would suggest getting labs done frequently if you want to know the truth.

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Re: Why was that GH Thread deleted?
« Reply #37 on: May 19, 2009, 05:08:01 PM »
well i think there are two types of evidence = scientific and anecdotal.... thats to say ....   what the books say will work, and what actually happens when you do something. im not sure where bloodwork fits into that... because my experiences with various drugs wont change based on what a blood work says... i mean...if i gain 20 lbs and then get blood work and it showed my estrogen was zero, even though i was using test with no ai or serm... well what does that mean? nothin... it still means i gained 20lbs.    so while blood work would be great if i wanted to monitor my health...  ;D ... i dont think its going to contribute to my scientific knowledge or my anecdotal evidence...