shane carwin (spoiler)

[MindSpin]

Fedor deserves credit and in all probability is still the best heavyweight.  That is why everyone is scratching their head wondering why he is ducking the elite of the heavyweight class and why I keep calling him a pussy. 

[WeightPSHR]

Exactly. All joking aside, he is doing more damage to his reputation by dodging these big fights.



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[AC Slater]

Fedor deserves credit and in all probability is still the best heavyweight.  That is why everyone is scratching their head wondering why he is ducking the elite of the heavyweight class and why I keep calling him a pussy. 

dude, fedor said he would go to the ufc and fight brock no problem.  the ufc would not allow fedor to do only a 1 fight deal though.  it makes sense from their perspective, they dont want fedor to come beat brocks ass then leave, as the ufc heavyweight belt would be meaningless.  That is the same reason the ufc did everything in their power to stop the couture - fedor fight.

hes not scared, he just doesnt want to sell his soul and fight on the ufc's terms.  when you have been ranked #1 in the world for 5+ years, you have the right to decline offers that are unsatisfactory.

[MindSpin]

dude, fedor said he would go to the ufc and fight brock no problem.  the ufc would not allow fedor to do only a 1 fight deal though.  it makes sense from their perspective, they dont want fedor to come beat brocks ass then leave, as the ufc heavyweight belt would be meaningless.  That is the same reason the ufc did everything in their power to stop the couture - fedor fight.

hes not scared, he just doesnt want to sell his soul and fight on the ufc's terms.  when you have been ranked #1 in the world for 5+ years, you have the right to decline offers that are unsatisfactory.

That's a copout for Fedor.  Him and him camp also stipulated the they had to make it an M1/UFC co promotion.  He knows full well that the UFC has nothing to gain from this.  He should do a simple 3 fight deal with $800,000 plus a PPV% for each fight.  If he's such a badass, he will restore his legacy & make more money than any MMA fighter in history.

[big L dawg]

He already has made more money than any MMA fighter in history...

[MindSpin]

He already has made more money than any MMA fighter in history...

The fact is he hasn't.  Fedor has surrounded himself with a bunch of leeches are are milking him for all he is worth.  All of M1 revenues can be attributed to the Fedor brand, yet all he gets a diluted 10%...that's sad. 

[big L dawg]

The fact is he hasn't.  Fedor has surrounded himself with a bunch of leeches are are milking him for all he is worth.  All of M1 revenues can be attributed to the Fedor brand, yet all he gets a diluted 10%...that's sad. 

go watch fight night starts in 2 min...

[AC Slater]

He should do a simple 3 fight deal with $800,000 plus a PPV% for each fight.

He has no problem with that.  UFC wouldnt let him do only a 3 fight deal, the contract they offered would make him have to fight under their brand name until he lost a fight.

Why would he agree to that?  With a contract like that it would be impossible to go undefeated.

[WeightPSHR]

He has no problem with that.  UFC wouldnt let him do only a 3 fight deal, the contract they offered would make him have to fight under their brand name until he lost a fight.

Why would he agree to that?  With a contract like that it would be impossible to go undefeated.

This is all speculation. You have got to look at the big picture. Why would big names like Brock, Rampage, Chuck, Randy, Mir, Shogun, Tito, BJ, GSP, etc. have no problem with the UFC or it's pay. If they wanted to make more or somebody had something better they surely would not be renewing their contracts. Even Rampage, who recently stated he disliked the UFC resigned with them. Tito even worked something out.

Bottom line is that the UFC WILL try to meet the fighters needs...they just are not going to sell out their brand by copromoting etc.

Translation...Fedor is padding his record, a pussy, or both.

[AC Slater]

This is all speculation. You have got to look at the big picture. Why would big names like Brock, Rampage, Chuck, Randy, Mir, Shogun, Tito, BJ, GSP, etc. have no problem with the UFC or it's pay. If they wanted to make more or somebody had something better they surely would not be renewing their contracts. Even Rampage, who recently stated he disliked the UFC resigned with them. Tito even worked something out.

Bottom line is that the UFC WILL try to meet the fighters needs...they just are not going to sell out their brand by copromoting etc.

Translation...Fedor is padding his record, a pussy, or both.

none of those guys are the #1 fighter in the world with an undefeated record.  if you want the #1 guy to fight in your org you have to make sacrifices for him.  none of those other guys are worth near as much as fedor.  fedor said he would do a 1-3 fight deal and then walk, even without the co-promoting, but the ufc declined.

[big L dawg]

This is all speculation. You have got to look at the big picture. Why would big names like Brock, Rampage, Chuck, Randy, Mir, Shogun, Tito, BJ, GSP, etc. have no problem with the UFC or it's pay. If they wanted to make more or somebody had something better they surely would not be renewing their contracts. Even Rampage, who recently stated he disliked the UFC resigned with them. Tito even worked something out.

Bottom line is that the UFC WILL try to meet the fighters needs...they just are not going to sell out their brand by copromoting etc.

Translation...Fedor is padding his record, a pussy, or both.

you have a link to rampage resining with them?....He has had 2 fights left on his contract since before the tuf season...The last interview I seen he said he will fullfill his contract and leave the UFC....If he resined I missed it...please post were you got this info from...

[WeightPSHR]

you have a link to rampage resining with them?....He has had 2 fights left on his contract since before the tuf season...The last interview I seen he said he will fullfill his contract and leave the UFC....If he resined I missed it...please post were you got this info from...

http://www.mmaconvert.com/2010/03/24/ufc-re-signs-rampage-jackson-for-six-fights/

It looks like Rampage Jackson and the UFC have officially made up…in the form of a new six-fight contract.

    “Rampage and I are friends again now. I was mad at him because of what he’s done, and he was mad at me because I was mad at him [smile].”

    When we asked [Dana] at the private media session whether Rampage’s recent statements about him wanting to leave the sport after his contract is finished, would affect his chances of getting a title shot in the near future (provided of course, he defeats Rashad Evans), Dana responded :

    “No, we just renewed Rampage’s contract… It’s a 6 fights contract.”

[WeightPSHR]

none of those guys are the #1 fighter in the world with an undefeated record.  if you want the #1 guy to fight in your org you have to make sacrifices for him.  none of those other guys are worth near as much as fedor.  fedor said he would do a 1-3 fight deal and then walk, even without the co-promoting, but the ufc declined.

One thing you are missing here is that the UFC will exist with or without Fedor. The rate he is going, he will eventually lose his #1 ranking or retire.

Meanwhile the UFC will put on HW fights that the fans want to see...like Carwin/Mir etc.

At the end of the day....the people that have been following MMA for years are really the only ones that are dying to see Fedor in the UFC.

I would love to see him in the UFC, but I realize it most likely will not happen and am willing to move on.

Rankings are not necessarily what it is all about.

[big L dawg]

http://www.mmaconvert.com/2010/03/24/ufc-re-signs-rampage-jackson-for-six-fights/

It looks like Rampage Jackson and the UFC have officially made up…in the form of a new six-fight contract.

    “Rampage and I are friends again now. I was mad at him because of what he’s done, and he was mad at me because I was mad at him [smile].”

    When we asked [Dana] at the private media session whether Rampage’s recent statements about him wanting to leave the sport after his contract is finished, would affect his chances of getting a title shot in the near future (provided of course, he defeats Rashad Evans), Dana responded :

    “No, we just renewed Rampage’s contract… It’s a 6 fights contract.”

sweet...thanx for that bro...

[HICKSON]

Rankings are not necessarily what it is all about.

Best sentence you've posted in this thread. 

Is it me or was 111 a co-promote with Tapout? If it was.... hum.....

Carwin vs Brock will be all about who's cardio is better & Brock proctecting that chin.

[WeightPSHR]

Best sentence you've posted in this thread. 

Is it me or was 111 a co-promote with Tapout? If it was.... hum.....

Carwin vs Brock will be all about who's cardio is better & Brock proctecting that chin.

Most UFC events are heavily sponsored by Tapout. Call it co-promoting or not, it's basically the same thing.

[MindSpin]

Even if it was a co-promotion, there is no conflict of interest.  TapOut makes t-shirts and the UFC promotes fights. 

[big L dawg]

Even if it was a co-promotion, there is no conflict of interest.  TapOut makes t-shirts and the UFC promotes fights. 

Yep just like affliction...

[MindSpin]

Yep just like affliction...

Affliction also was a fight promo company