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Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« on: May 06, 2010, 10:58:36 AM »
"Imagine if the Tea Party Was Black"



Let's play a game, shall we? The name of the game is called "Imagine.” The way it's played is simple: we'll envision recent happenings in the news, but then change them up a bit. Instead of envisioning white people as the main actors in the scenes we'll conjure - the ones who are driving the action - we'll envision black folks or other people of color instead. The object of the game is to imagine the public reaction to the events or incidents, if the main actors were of color, rather than white. Whoever gains the most insight into the workings of race in America, at the end of the game, wins.

So let's begin.

Imagine that hundreds of black protesters were to descend upon Washington DC and Northern Virginia, just a few miles from the Capitol and White House, armed with AK-47s, assorted handguns, and ammunition. And imagine that some of these protesters ...the black protesters, spoke of the need for political revolution, and possibly even armed conflict in the event that laws they didn't like were enforced by the government? Would these protester ...these black protesters with guns, be seen as brave defenders of the Second Amendment, or would they be viewed by most whites as a danger to the republic? What if they were Arab-Americans? Because, after all, that's what happened recently when white gun enthusiasts descended upon the nation’s capital, arms in hand, and verbally announced their readiness to make war on the country's political leaders if the need arose.

Imagine that white members of Congress, while walking to work, were surrounded by thousands of angry black people, one of whom proceeded to spit on one of those congressmen for not voting the way the black demonstrators desired. Would the protesters be seen as merely patriotic Americans voicing their opinions, or as an angry, potentially violent, and even insurrectionary mob? After all, this is what white Tea Party protesters did recently in Washington.

Imagine that a rap artist were to say, in reference to a white president: "He's a piece of shit and I told him to suck on my machine gun".” Because that's what rocker Ted Nugent said recently about President Obama.

Imagine that a prominent mainstream black political commentator had long employed an overt bigot as Executive Director of his organization, and that this bigot regularly participated in black separatist conferences, and once assaulted a white person while calling them by a racial slur. When that prominent black commentator and his sister (who also works for the organization) defended the bigot as a good guy who was misunderstood and going through a tough time in his life, would anyone accept their excuse-making? Would that commentator still have a place on a mainstream network? Because that's what happened in the real world, when Pat Buchanan employed as Executive Director of his group, America's Cause, a blatant racist who did all these things, or at least their white equivalents: attending white separatist conferences and attacking a black woman while calling her the n-word.

Imagine that a black radio host were to suggest that the only way to get promoted in the administration of a white president is by hating black people,”or that a prominent white person had only endorsed a white presidential candidate as an act of racial bonding, or blamed a white president for a fight on a school bus in which a black kid was jumped by two white kids, or said that he wouldn't want to kill all conservatives, but rather, would like to leave just enough—"living fossils" as he called them,“so we will never forget what these people stood for.” After all, these are things that Rush Limbaugh has said, about Barack Obama's administration, Colin Powell's endorsement of Barack Obama, a fight on a school bus in Belleville, Illinois in which two black kids beat up a white kid, and about liberals, generally.

Imagine that a black pastor, formerly a member of the U.S. military, were to declare, as part of his opposition to a white president's policies, that he was ready to suit up, get my gun, go to Washington, and do what they trained me to do.” This is, after all, what Pastor Stan Craig said recently at a Tea Party rally in Greenville, South Carolina.

Imagine a black radio talk show host gleefully predicting a revolution by people of color if the government continues to be dominated by the rich white men who have been "destroying" the country, or if said radio personality were to call Christians or Jews non-humans, or say that when it came to conservatives, the best solution would be to "hang em high".” And what would happen to any congressional representative who praised that commentator for speaking common sense”and likened his hate talk to American values?” After all, those are among the things said by radio host and best-selling author Michael Savage, predicting white revolution in the face of multiculturalism, or said by Savage about Muslims and liberals, respectively. And it was Congressman Culbertson, from Texas, who praised Savage in that way, despite his hateful rhetoric.

Imagine a black political commentator suggesting that the only thing the guy who flew his plane into the Austin, Texas IRS building did wrong was not blowing up Fox News instead. This is, after all, what Anne Coulter said about Tim McVeigh, when she noted that his only mistake was not blowing up the New York Times.

Imagine that a popular black liberal website posted comments about the daughter of a white president, calling her "typical redneck trash", or a "whore" whose mother entertains her by making monkey sounds.” After all that's comparable to what conservatives posted about Malia Obama on freerepublic.com last year, when they referred to her as "ghetto trash.”

Imagine that black protesters at a large political rally were walking around with signs calling for the lynching of their congressional enemies. Because that's what white conservatives did last year, in reference to Democratic party leaders in Congress.

In other words, imagine that even one-third of the anger and vitriol currently being hurled at President Obama, by folks who are almost exclusively white, were being aimed, instead, at a white president, by people of color. How many whites viewing the anger, the hatred, the contempt for that white president would then wax eloquent about free speech, and the glories of democracy? And how many would be calling for further crackdowns on thuggish behavior, and investigations into the radical agendas of those same people of color?

To ask any of these questions is to answer them. Protest is only seen as fundamentally American when those who have long had the luxury of seeing themselves as prototypically American engage in it. When the dangerous and dark "other"” does so, however, it isn't viewed as normal or natural, let alone patriotic. Which is why Rush Limbaugh could say, this past week, that the Tea Parties are the first time since the Civil War that ordinary, common Americans stood up for their rights: a statement that erases the normalcy and "American-ness" of blacks in the civil rights struggle, not to mention women in the fight for suffrage and equality, working people in the fight for better working conditions, and LGBT folks as they struggle to be treated as full and equal human beings.

And this, my friends, is what white privilege is all about. The ability to threaten others, to engage in violent and incendiary rhetoric without consequence, to be viewed as patriotic and normal no matter what you do, and never to be feared and despised as people of color would be, if they tried to get away with half the shit we do, on a daily basis.



Tim Wise is among the most prominent anti-racist writers and activists in the U.S., and has been called, "One of the most brilliant, articulate and courageous critics of white privilege in the nation," by best-selling author and professor Michael Eric Dyson, of Georgetown University. Wise has spoken in 48 states, and on over 400 college campuses, including Harvard, Stanford, and the Law Schools at Yale and Columbia, and has spoken to community groups around the nation. Wise has provided anti-racism training to teachers nationwide, and has trained physicians and medical industry professionals on how to combat racial inequities in health care. He has also trained corporate, government, entertainment, military and law enforcement officials on methods for dismantling racism in their institutions, and has served as a consultant for plaintiff's attorneys in federal discrimination cases in New York and Washington State.

Wise is the author of White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son, and Affirmative Action: Racial Preference in Black and White. A collection of his essays, Speaking Treason Fluently: Anti-Racist Reflections From an Angry White Male, will be published in the Fall of 2008, and his fourth book, Between Barack and a Hard Place: Race and Whiteness in the Age of Obama, will be released in Spring, 2009. He has contributed chapters or essays to 20 books, and is one of several persons featured in White Men Challenging Racism: Thirty-Five Personal Stories, from Duke University Press. He received the 2001 British Diversity Award for best essay on race issues, and his writings have appeared in dozens of popular, professional and scholarly journals. Wise has been a guest on hundreds of radio and television programs, worldwide.

Wise has a B.A. in Political Science from Tulane University, where his anti-apartheid work received global attention and the thanks of Nelson Mandela and Archbishop Desmond Tutu. He received training in methods for dismantling racism from the People's Institute for Survival and Beyond, in New Orleans. He and his wife Kristy are the proud parents of two daughters.
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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2010, 11:25:31 AM »
Sounds like the million man march ,although at the tea parties there is no racial hatred unlike the million man march.

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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2010, 11:32:25 AM »
Sounds like the million man march ,although at the tea parties there is no racial hatred unlike the million man march.

What the heck are you even talking about? What racial hatred existed at the million man march?
How many AK-47's went along for the ride? Were you there? Did you even see footage of the event after the fact? Don't try to divert or deflect with lies... just imagine if the tea party was Black.   ;)
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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2010, 11:53:35 AM »
What the heck are you even talking about? What racial hatred existed at the million man march?
How many AK-47's went along for the ride? Were you there? Did you even see footage of the event after the fact? Don't try to divert or deflect with lies... just imagine if the tea party was Black.   ;)

Hey IDIOT the guy who was in charge of the million man march was Farakahn the biggest anti semite in the country.How about the speech of Malik Shabazz at the March? Please show me ANYTHING ANY tea party EVER said that comes close to his hatred of whites.

Ever see the area where tea parties are held?They are cleaner then when they came.No racial hatred no violence just left wing media lies and made up stories.Your an idiot!!!

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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2010, 11:55:10 AM »
We don't have to "imagine" - we saw it last election:

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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2010, 11:59:53 AM »
By the way,if the tea parties were black the media would be praising them as patriots.You wouldnt see one made up story of spitting or racial slurs in fact the media would be rooting them on.No invented stories of violence,it would be nothing but praise.

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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2010, 12:02:25 PM »
I'd like to imagine you drowning in your bath tub.

Ahhh.. Ok I did. Very nice and pleasent thought.

Please make my pleasent thought of the day come true and spare the rest of us from your moronic threads and comments.

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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2010, 12:04:27 PM »
Sounds like the million man march ,although at the tea parties there is no racial hatred unlike the million man march.

4 people missed work that day.  It was rough for the economy. 
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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2010, 12:21:54 PM »
4 people missed work that day.  It was rough for the economy. 
I kid....oooooold joke

Crime was also very low that day as all the criminals were in Washington.

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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2010, 12:42:00 PM »
What the heck are you even talking about? What racial hatred existed at the million man march?
How many AK-47's went along for the ride? Were you there? Did you even see footage of the event after the fact? Don't try to divert or deflect with lies... just imagine if the tea party was Black.   ;)

Remember Jag, Billy is the one on Vicodin, Advil, Oxycotin and lets throw in some CrystalMeth and Crack to complete the picture. Hasn't had a vegetable or fruit in 15 years and thinks consuming GMO, Monsanto products and DRANO is good for his health. So don't exactly expect anything in the form of an intelligent answer and always expect for whites to see negativity in anything positive and positivity in anything negative. Also keep in mind the diversion tactic, flipping of script and avoidance of truth.

To answer the imagine question, before an mass of gun toting people of color could even get to Washington DC the military would have met them on the highways, roadways, would have tapped their cell phones and home phones, would have immediately sent out troops to "DISARM" them had they made it to within miles of the US Capital or Whitehouse and would have arrested scores of people including the organizers and labeled it/them anarchist, gangs, violent, provocateurs, trouble makers etc etc. The whites on this board will never see themselves or their own as they are and while they are busy hating people of color who have done nothing, it is their own who are presently causing them so much distress and heartache with the Wall Street fraud, housing fraud, investment fraud, job losses, pension losses, tent cities, civil and rights violations etc etc etc...

They will come to know themselves shortly.
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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2010, 01:29:56 PM »
Remember Jag, Billy is the one on Vicodin, Advil, Oxycotin and lets throw in some CrystalMeth and Crack to complete the picture. Hasn't had a vegetable or fruit in 15 years and thinks consuming GMO, Monsanto products and DRANO is good for his health. So don't exactly expect anything in the form of an intelligent answer and always expect for whites to see negativity in anything positive and positivity in anything negative. Also keep in mind the diversion tactic, flipping of script and avoidance of truth.

To answer the imagine question, before an mass of gun toting people of color could even get to Washington DC the military would have met them on the highways, roadways, would have tapped their cell phones and home phones, would have immediately sent out troops to "DISARM" them had they made it to within miles of the US Capital or Whitehouse and would have arrested scores of people including the organizers and labeled it/them anarchist, gangs, violent, provocateurs, trouble makers etc etc. The whites on this board will never see themselves or their own as they are and while they are busy hating people of color who have done nothing, it is their own who are presently causing them so much distress and heartache with the Wall Street fraud, housing fraud, investment fraud, job losses, pension losses, tent cities, civil and rights violations etc etc etc...

They will come to know themselves shortly.

The whites on this board dont hate people of color.We hate the fact that so many Americans were so stupid to elect a black man that HATES whites and sat in a racist church for twenty years.

Oh well,how could you understand anything,your the guy who is still so stupid you think the Duke rape case was real.Ha,ha,ha.What an idiot.

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« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2010, 03:10:56 PM »
The whites on this board dont hate people of color.We hate the fact that so many Americans were so stupid to elect a black man that HATES whites and sat in a racist church for twenty years.

Oh well,how could you understand anything,your the guy who is still so stupid you think the Duke rape case was real.Ha,ha,ha.What an idiot.

Are you the spokes person for whites on the board now? Let them speak for themselves.

So far as your comment on the election of Obama. Where has Obama displayed any hate towards whites? I find that he panders and caters too much toward them...Just look at the bailouts. Where have "Black, Hispanics or the forgotten Native People benefitted?

Show me where Obama has specifically displayed OPEN CONTEMPT OF WHITES?

I can show you open racist contempt of every "Black", Hispanic and Native Person in america by whites from presidents on down over the past four hundred years and you are griping about about a person who has been in office for all of a little over a year?

Maybe you should take your attitude up with the so called jew who controls Obama...you can start with Goldman Sachs and work your way around to Obama's entire administration....Compla in to them that they are doing whites wrong...and watch them laugh in your face.

So far as Rev. Jeremiah Wright goes...only an idiot like yourself would find his sermon racist.... Have you listened to it again since those prophetic words were spoken? If not you need to go and listen to them again as everything he spoke of has come true...with still worst on the way...But hey I have already said whites see negativity in positivity and positivity in negativity...Lie in truth and truth in Lies. I can't help you with that type of brain damage, you have to work that out on your own.
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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2010, 03:37:00 PM »
I don't buy into the race thing - I grew up the only white kid on my block in school, and I've been treated like shit by white ppl WAY worse in my life.

That being said... very interesting point... if thousands of muslims were lining up with AK-47s in Washington DC, I doubt FOX would be hailing them has heroes lol...

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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2010, 06:28:07 PM »
Somehow I'm guessing blacks arming themselves and protesting would not be well received by Fox news.

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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2010, 06:45:39 PM »
I dont hate blacks in general at all. I just hate Jag and SAMSON the ape. Every other black person on the board seems cool or is irrelevant to me.

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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2010, 06:47:54 PM »
Somehow I'm guessing blacks arming themselves and protesting would not be well received by Fox news their local liquor stores, department stores and any police/firemen that try to help the innocent.
Fixed buddy!! :D

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« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2010, 06:50:25 PM »
LOLOLOL

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« Reply #17 on: May 06, 2010, 08:44:06 PM »
Yawn....another guy ridden with "white guilt" writing books that just pile up to collect dust.  These un-elected black leaders and racist liberals who pander to this kind of shit only look out for themselves and themselves only.

If you can't make it here in the land of opportunity, it is YOUR fault.  Too many of our leaders encouraging the masses to look to some politician to bail 'em out of there problems.  Here in SoFla, I see LOTS of Haitians, Jamaicans, Central Americans, and others from other places on earth come here with a lot less than their US-born counterparts...and MAKE it.  No cries of racism.  Just work hard.

Anyways, who really gives a shit about how the media would view a particular group.  All news media organizations are biased in one way or another, so it becomes a moot point.  Outside of Fox News and conservative media, the TeaPartiers are constantly regarded as hostile and racist...........even MSNBC was disappointed that the would-be NY car bomber wasn't a white guy with Tea Party ties. 

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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2010, 04:25:15 AM »
Remember Jag, Billy is the one on Vicodin, Advil, Oxycotin and lets throw in some CrystalMeth and Crack to complete the picture. Hasn't had a vegetable or fruit in 15 years and thinks consuming GMO, Monsanto products and DRANO is good for his health. So don't exactly expect anything in the form of an intelligent answer and always expect for whites to see negativity in anything positive and positivity in anything negative. Also keep in mind the diversion tactic, flipping of script and avoidance of truth.

To answer the imagine question, before an mass of gun toting people of color could even get to Washington DC the military would have met them on the highways, roadways, would have tapped their cell phones and home phones, would have immediately sent out troops to "DISARM" them had they made it to within miles of the US Capital or Whitehouse and would have arrested scores of people including the organizers and labeled it/them anarchist, gangs, violent, provocateurs, trouble makers etc etc. The whites on this board will never see themselves or their own as they are and while they are busy hating people of color who have done nothing, it is their own who are presently causing them so much distress and heartache with the Wall Street fraud, housing fraud, investment fraud, job losses, pension losses, tent cities, civil and rights violations etc etc etc...

They will come to know themselves shortly.

Gun owners in California saw a lot of their gun rights negatively impacted when a group of armed black panthers walked into the Sacramento legislature. There was no confrontation, no civil unrest or shooting, just a group of leather jacket wearing , Shaft looking black mean with blow-out Afros, and big guns walking into an ongoing session of the legislature. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall to see the looks on everyone faces and to see how many of them soiled themselves.

Immediately after these men exercised their constitutional rights to bear arms, california immediately restricted the places where guns could be brought.
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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2010, 05:21:14 AM »
Gun owners in California saw a lot of their gun rights negatively impacted when a group of armed black panthers walked into the Sacramento legislature. There was no confrontation, no civil unrest or shooting, just a group of leather jacket wearing , Shaft looking black mean with blow-out Afros, and big guns walking into an ongoing session of the legislature. I would have loved to have been a fly on the wall to see the looks on everyone faces and to see how many of them soiled themselves.

Immediately after these men exercised their constitutional rights to bear arms, california immediately restricted the places where guns could be brought.
"Imagine" if that was a group of hooded men in white robes!!!! :o
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« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2010, 05:26:48 AM »
"Imagine" if that was a group of hooded men in white robes!!!! :o

They'd be given free reign to do what they wanted for the next 100 years if history is any indicator.
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« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2010, 05:29:34 AM »
They'd be given free reign to do what they wanted for the next 100 years if history is any indicator.
Yes!! Then we could "imagine" what it would be like to have the million klan march!!! :D
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« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2010, 05:37:04 AM »
Does the klan accept dagoes, goombahs, wops, and zips? 

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« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2010, 10:57:16 AM »
Are you the spokes person for whites on the board now? Let them speak for themselves.

So far as your comment on the election of Obama. Where has Obama displayed any hate towards whites? I find that he panders and caters too much toward them...Just look at the bailouts. Where have "Black, Hispanics or the forgotten Native People benefitted?

Show me where Obama has specifically displayed OPEN CONTEMPT OF WHITES?

I can show you open racist contempt of every "Black", Hispanic and Native Person in america by whites from presidents on down over the past four hundred years and you are griping about about a person who has been in office for all of a little over a year?

Maybe you should take your attitude up with the so called jew who controls Obama...you can start with Goldman Sachs and work your way around to Obama's entire administration....Compla in to them that they are doing whites wrong...and watch them laugh in your face.

So far as Rev. Jeremiah Wright goes...only an idiot like yourself would find his sermon racist.... Have you listened to it again since those prophetic words were spoken? If not you need to go and listen to them again as everything he spoke of has come true...with still worst on the way...But hey I have already said whites see negativity in positivity and positivity in negativity...Lie in truth and truth in Lies. I can't help you with that type of brain damage, you have to work that out on your own.

Do you speak for the non whites on this board.Who elected YOU the spokesman?

Where did Obama show contempt towards whites.
1-Allowed Rev. Lowery to insult whites at his inaugeration.
2-Sided with black racist scum bag Professor Gates instead of white cop.
3-Put DSotomayor on the supreme court an anti-white racist.
4-In his book said "the white mans greed runs a world in need".
5-Had Van Jones a black radical racist in his administration.
6-Allowed little midget Robert Reich to say whites shouldnt get construction jobs from the stimulus money.


Those are 6 examples I could give 10 more if You like.As far as sawed off racist Rev. Wright,just a few months ago,the sawed off little racist was asked why he hasnt gone to see Obama.Wrights reply?"DEM JEWS WONT LET ME SEE HIM".Obamas mentor and teacher.

Its amazing that YOU are free to blame Jews for everything but get offended at a white saying a negative thing about blacks.Oh well,what would I expect from a nit wit who had the balls and stupidity to actually argue that the Duke rape case happened.Ha,ha,ha if your not Jag your as dumb as her.

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Re: Let's play a little game called 'Imagine"
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2010, 03:49:20 PM »
Does the klan accept dagoes, goombahs, wops, and zips? 

Just asking.
Not sure about the zips, but the rest are welcome!!

Actually, if you look into it, Hitler has a huge fanbase with all of the above.

Which I find weird.
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