Fatal 4-way PPV results...new champions crowned!

[Playboy]

Ring announcer Justin Roberts introduced Mr. McMahon as the chairman of World Wrestling Entertainment. Vince walked onto the stage to a nice pop.

Intercontinental Championship
Kofi Kingston (c) vs. Drew McIntyre / Kofi Kingston retained the IC title


WWE Divas Title
Fatal 4 Way Match
Gail Kim vs. Maryse vs. Alicia Fox vs. Eve Torres (c) / Alicia Fox won the Women's title

Chris Jericho vs. Evan Bourne / Evan Bourne won

World Heavyweight Championship
Fatal 4 Way Match
Jack Swagger (c) vs. Big Show vs. CM Punk vs. Rey Mysterio / Ray Mysterio won the Heavyweight title

United States Championship
The Miz (c) vs. R-Truth / The Miz retained the United States title


Tyson Kidd, DH Smith and Natalya vs. Tamina, Jimmy & Jay Uso / Natalya with Smith & Kidd won

WWE Championship
Fatal 4 Way Match
John Cena (c) vs. Randy Orton vs. Sheamus vs. Edge / Sheamus won the WWE title but the NXT rookies came out, chased him off and basically beat the holy hell out of everyone left in the ring.



 


 
 
  
 
 


 
 

[monopoly19]

Rey Mysterio, give me a break. I like the guy but he's no HW champ!!! Really getting sick of him beating these big guys over and over again, it was bad enough when he beat Kane a couple of weeks ago.

[Montague]

There was a time when the old man would never have considered a move like that.

[Playboy]

Of course not. What would Rey do against guys like, Hogan, Savage, or Warrior? Rey wouldn't have even been IC Champ! Not saying he's not great. But it just wouldn't have happened. The first time I was shocked of course is when Hogan lost to Warrior. Then when Hitman beat Flair I was suprised. But accepted it. Then Shawn Michaels ex-Rocker won it. Once HBK gave that cry baby I lost my smile nonsense. The title meant nothing from then on in. It was cool when Yoko had it I thought though.

I think its safe to say that the days of having a huge roster and multiple big stars that can draw is over. Guys like Warrior, Hogan, Savage, Michaels, Undertaker, Yoko could all draw big money. How the hell is gonna buy a ticket to watch Ray???

[Montague]

It’s been said that the first time Vince really took notice of the smaller wrestlers’ skills was when Dynamite worked a match with Sayama at MSG around 1981.
Vince was impressed by the crowd reaction.

Although he learned the value of the smaller guys that night, he still clung to the paradigm that all other promoters held: WRESTLING IS A BIG MAN’S BUSINESS.

It wasn’t until the steroid scandal that Vince tried to distance the company from the traditional mass/roid monsters by putting the belt on guys like Bret & HBK.
Even Bret has mentioned this as a factor in him getting the strap.

[Playboy]

It’s been said that the first time Vince really took notice of the smaller wrestlers’ skills was when Dynamite worked a match with Sayama at MSG around 1981.
Vince was impressed by the crowd reaction.

Although he learned the value of the smaller guys that night, he still clung to the paradigm that all other promoters held: WRESTLING IS A BIG MAN’S BUSINESS.

It wasn’t until the steroid scandal that Vince tried to distance the company from the traditional mass/roid monsters by putting the belt on guys like Bret & HBK.
Even Bret has mentioned this as a factor in him getting the strap.

Absolutely. Alot of it has to do with the stars now if you wanna call them stars. Even in the late ninties you had, Austin, the Rock, Hart, Michaels, Mankind, HHH, Jericho, etc, etc. In the eighties you had Hogan, Warrior, Savage, Demolition, Flair, Bulldogs, Stemboat, etc, etc, etc. Who the hell is there now??? Once HHH & Cena call it quits who really can draw? Who can represent the company?? Watching MVP & Zack Ryder is like watching KoKo B Ware & Rebel Dick Slater. I wouldn't buy a ticket to watch John Morrison. The product and the paranoia of Vince not wanting the media and FDA to come down on him has had the product go into a downward spiral.

[Montague]

For some reason(s), the wrestlers coming up today are not developing the way they were just a short time ago.
Various aspects of the craft have been (and are being) lost more and more.

I don’t think you can entirely blame this phenomenon on the audience, either.
I realize that times & people change, but…
I really believe that if Bobby Heenan & Paul Orndorff climbed into a ring today in their current conditions, they could still draw heat because they know how to work the crowd.

Today, guys “work” by doing 55 high spots in one match, none of which mean anything.
Then, they cut a 10 minute promo and say a bunch of stuff that doesn’t mean anything because, ultimately, they don’t mean anything.

The hardest part to figure out is that the people running the show KNOW WHAT WORKS.
Vince has been on top for a long time, so he knows what to do. Surely, he hasn’t forgotten his best formulas.
Dixie is surrounded by people who were on top in the business for a long time, so she knows what to do.

I see what’s happening, but am at a loss as to why.

[Playboy]

For some reason(s), the wrestlers coming up today are not developing the way they were just a short time ago.
Various aspects of the craft have been (and are being) lost more and more.

I don’t think you can entirely blame this phenomenon on the audience, either.
I realize that times & people change, but…
I really believe that if Bobby Heenan & Paul Orndorff climbed into a ring today in their current conditions, they could still draw heat because they know how to work the crowd.

Today, guys “work” by doing 55 high spots in one match, none of which mean anything.
Then, they cut a 10 minute promo and say a bunch of stuff that doesn’t mean anything because, ultimately, they don’t mean anything.

The hardest part to figure out is that the people running the show KNOW WHAT WORKS.
Vince has been on top for a long time, so he knows what to do. Surely, he hasn’t forgotten his best formulas.
Dixie is surrounded by people who were on top in the business for a long time, so she knows what to do.

I see what’s happening, but am at a loss as to why.

You and me both. As soon as the Benoit incident happened, the product and the company went down hill. Who knows, maybe others saw it too and decided to leave for that reason. Example Shane McMahon.

[njflex]

cena is always going to be in the mix as champ,he's big and crowd is behind him.i could see the miz now approaching that level due to him being able to piss off crowd and he performs ok too.they just keep recycling same group now,edge he is small and looks like he dosen't lift,jericho still insights crowd so he's there to,and orton who plays heel and face pretty good but sometimes his persona gets a little annoying and now he is setting his sights on the nxt group,they have some impressive builds and attitude ,i'm guessing its a bit like the nwo minus the big ego's and big salaries,decent angle we'll see where it goes.

[Playboy]

Its all about drawing. He who can draw holds all the cards.

In other words....Hulk Hogan = pro wrestling period.

[Montague]

A lot of people criticize Hogan, saying that he could never “work.”
Bullshit.
For a lot of years, he put a lot of asses in a lot of seats.
That makes him a good “worker,” and I’m sure Vince McMahon Jr. would agree.

Admittedly, it was a very different style of working than say an HBK, or a Benoit, but Hogan - with his own style - knew how to work a crowd better than anyone.

[Playboy]

A lot of people criticize Hogan, saying that he could never “work.”
Bullshit.
For a lot of years, he put a lot of asses in a lot of seats.
That makes him a good “worker,” and I’m sure Vince McMahon Jr. would agree.

Admittedly, it was a very different style of working than say an HBK, or a Benoit, but Hogan - with his own style - knew how to work a crowd better than anyone.

And he was VERY under-rated as a wrestler.

[Montague]

Hogan did well in Japan, where the fans are extremely demanding and critical of what they like.

In fact, Hogan did well anywhere he went.
But, you’ve got to give Vince credit, too.
Hulk Bollea worked on top in every territory he ever went to, but McMahon raised the limits of what constituted “the top.”

Hogan had the skill set, but Vince’s vision and ambition allowed Hulkamania to reach heights he would never otherwise have seen with any other promoter.

Vince McMahon Jr. and Hulk Hogan both helped each other achieve their ultimate success.

[Playboy]

Hogan did well in Japan, where the fans are extremely demanding and critical of what they like.

In fact, Hogan did well anywhere he went.
But, you’ve got to give Vince credit, too.
Hulk Bollea worked on top in every territory he ever went to, but McMahon raised the limits of what constituted “the top.”

Hogan had the skill set, but Vince’s vision and ambition allowed Hulkamania to reach heights he would never otherwise have seen with any other promoter.

Vince McMahon Jr. and Hulk Hogan both helped each other achieve their ultimate success.

The one weapon WWF had over every single other territory was marketing. Smart marketing.

[Playboy]

I saw it on TV. But imagine what it was like to be at Mania III when Hogans music went on and he walked the aisle. I mean he is the biggest draw in Wrestling. But he's gotta be one of the biggest draws for any live event attraction. This guy packed them in. When he entered the arena he got you in it emmotionally. No one could do it like the Hulkster.

There is nothing like it. Hogan ruled wrestling back then very easily. He sold out every single arena.