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Man convicted of rape because woman is stupid and a slut
« on: July 21, 2010, 03:18:57 PM »
Samson actually posted this earlier, but not too many people checked out the thread. I don't even know where to begin.

Palestinian jailed for rape after claiming to be Jewish

A Palestinian man has been convicted of rape after having consensual sex with an Israeli woman who believed he was Jewish because he introduced himself as "Daniel".
 

By Adrian Blomfield in Jerusalem
Published: 10:00PM BST 20 Jul 2010

A court in Jerusalem has made international legal history by jailing Sabbar Kashur, a 30-year-old delivery man from East Jerusalem, for 18 months.

He was convicted of "rape by deception" following a criminal trial that has drawn criticism from across Israel.
 
The court heard accusations that Mr Kashur misled the woman, whose identity has not been disclosed, by introducing himself with the traditionally Jewish name during a chance encounter on a street in central Jerusalem in 2008.

After striking up a conversation, the two went into a top-floor room of a nearby office-block and engaged in a sexual encounter, after which Mr Kashur left before the woman had a chance to get dressed. It was only later that she discovered Mr Kashur's true racial background, lawyers said.

Although conceding that the sex was consensual, district court judge Tzvi Segal concluded that the law had a duty to protect women from "smooth-tongued criminals who can deceive innocent victims at an unbearable price"

"If she hadn't thought the accused was a Jewish bachelor interested in a serious romantic relationship, she would not have co-operated," Mrs Segal said as she delivered her verdict.

A conviction for rape by deception on the grounds of racial misrepresentation is believed to be internationally unprecedented, according to British legal experts.

The charge is rarely used in the West. In 2007, a Syrian pilot walked free from a court in Swansea after being accused of tricking a woman into intercourse by saying it could cure her of a sexually transmitted disease.

A court in Massachusetts also acquitted a man who allegedly masqueraded as his twin-brother in order to have sex with the man's wife.

While forced sex by deception is an offence under Israeli law, legal experts say it is a charge used sparingly in cases involving protracted deceit and a promise of marriage.

Kashur was originally accused of violent rape and indecent assault, but later accepted the lesser charge under a plea-bargain after prosecutors received evidence suggesting the encounter was consensual.

Kashur’s lawyer, Adnan Aladdin, said he had filed an appeal to ensure that the verdict was not considered precedent-setting, adding that otherwise “many men would find themselves in jail.”

Israeli legal experts said they found the verdict disquieting.

"In the context of Israeli society, you can see that some women would feel very strongly that they had been violated by someone who says he is Jewish but is not," said a former senior justice ministry official.

"The question is whether the state should punish somebody in that situation. It puts the law in the position of what could loosely be described as discrimination. I would feel intuitively uncomfortable about prosecuting someone for something like that."

Asked whether his client was the victim of racial discrimination, Mr Aladdin said he "would rather not comment". Others, however, were scathing.

Gideon Levy, a leading liberal commentator, said: "I would like to raise only one question with the judge. What if this guy had been a Jew who pretended to be a Muslim and had sex with a Muslim woman. Would he have been convicted of rape? The answer is: of course not."

Israeli human rights activists said that Kashur's actions reflected the deceits many Palestinians practise when in Israel in an attempt to avoid official and private prejudice because of their background.

"It is very well known that Israeli-Palestinians living in Israel disguise themselves," said Leah Tsemel, a human-rights lawyer. "You change your accent and you change your dress because if you look like an Arab you face harassment.

"If you want to enter a pub, you'd better not look like an Arab and if you want to have sex with an Israeli girl, you had better not look like an Arab."

The prosecutor in the case was unavailable for comment and officials in the Jerusalem district attorney's office declined to discuss it.




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Re: Man convicted of rape because woman is stupid and a slut
« Reply #1 on: July 21, 2010, 03:24:19 PM »
Claiming to be Jewish isn't the biggest lie a dude has ever told to get some cooter, LOL!

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Re: Man convicted of rape because woman is stupid and a slut
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2010, 03:49:37 PM »
Interesting case.  Interesting issue.  Not sure what to think about this. 

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Re: Man convicted of rape because woman is stupid and a slut
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2010, 03:59:33 PM »
So if someone said he was a millionaire and women ran up to him for sex (and hoping to take advantage of him and his money) would he be convicted of rape because he wasn't rich?
But it doesn't surprise me that this happened in israel.

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Re: Man convicted of rape because woman is stupid and a slut
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2010, 04:01:04 PM »
Claiming to be Jewish isn't the biggest lie a dude has ever told to get some cooter, LOL!

My best work was using a passable (for a drunk chick) Aussie accent.

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Re: Man convicted of rape because woman is stupid and a slut
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2010, 04:07:51 PM »
IMO - “misrepresentation” does not constitute rape.
Lying about your race or ethnicity is not the same thing as forceable intercourse.

I suspect it really comes down to the country’s own definitions and interpretations of the term.

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Re: Man convicted of rape because woman is stupid and a slut
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2010, 04:18:04 PM »
My best work was using a passable (for a drunk chick) Aussie accent.

Know what really pisses me off about this whole article?! That futhermucker must have had mad game, BF!! THink about it, within 15 minutes of meeting her she was putting out in an abandoned building!!

I'm actually heartsick and experiencing hate over not knowing what he said to make those drawers drop so quickly.

I'm choosing to believe pickings are slim over there and being single/Jewish is all a dude needs. Also, there's probably a lot of pent-up cooter energy waiting to be released because women have to worry about suicide bombers. Anything but believing that dude's game is that much stronger than mine is acceptable. :)

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Re: Man convicted of rape because woman is stupid and a slut
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2010, 04:27:15 PM »
Know what really pisses me off about this whole article?! That futhermucker must have had mad game, BF!! THink about it, within 15 minutes of meeting her she was putting out in an abandoned building!!

I'm actually heartsick and experiencing hate over not knowing what he said to make those drawers drop so quickly.

I'm choosing to believe pickings are slim over there and being single/Jewish is all a dude needs. Also, there's probably a lot of pent-up cooter energy waiting to be released because women have to worry about suicide bombers. Anything but believing that dude's game is that much stronger than mine is acceptable. :)

LOL! The dude's probably got some serious game. Either that or this chick was ugly and not getting any. Leaving before she finished getting dressed leads me to believe it's the former.

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Re: Man convicted of rape because woman is stupid and a slut
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2010, 04:27:49 PM »
Know what really pisses me off about this whole article?! That futhermucker must have had mad game, BF!! THink about it, within 15 minutes of meeting her she was putting out in an abandoned building!!

I'm actually heartsick and experiencing hate over not knowing what he said to make those drawers drop so quickly.


I'm choosing to believe pickings are slim over there and being single/Jewish is all a dude needs. Also, there's probably a lot of pent-up cooter energy waiting to be released because women have to worry about suicide bombers. Anything but believing that dude's game is that much stronger than mine is acceptable. :)

This is true... That dude could teach every guy around... He's a bad guy.

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Re: Man convicted of rape because woman is stupid and a slut
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2010, 04:40:28 PM »
That's Barney Stinson level game. :)

I don't like the flavor of Haterade but really did end up taking a few sips after reading about this dude.