Cost....

[mitchyboy]

Thinking of doing a first time cycle. I'm 34 been lifting as long as i can remember, last 6-7 years seriously. Just wondering what i should be spending for a 10 week cycle.

sust.
600mg. w 8 weeks
300mg. w 2 weeks
20mg. dbol a day 10 weeks.
nolva. last 4 weeks 10mg. a day. not sure about this?
I'm looking at around 400$ for this and not sure what to think.
Thanks in advance for any help u feel comfortable giving.

[WillGrant]

Run it a bit longer IMO say 12-16weeks and use dbol at the start and end

[tinman15]

very expensive, but if you don't have any hook ups, this is what you are expected to spend.

[mitchyboy]

very expensive, but if you don't have any hook ups, this is what you are expected to spend.

I kinda figured but i dont have many options. Are u saying run the dbol for the whole 12 or just like first 3 and last 3. Im new here so im not sure what the best bang for my buck is gonna be.
THX.

[jerseymuscles113]

so much bullShit information....400dollar s is Not a bad price For gym prices For 3bottles of test, assuming its hg, and dbol an nolva? yes For gym prices that is fair...recommending 16 weeks For his first cycle? Lmaoo he has no idea what he's doing Or How his body responds to gear! listen Broo i'd recommend 500mg Of test 600 is fine thou, preferably pin It eod Or Atleast 3x a week, pick a dose and stay At that dose thru out your cycle...run It For 10weeks run the dboll At 30mgs a day For the first Or last 4weeks take It all 1hour pwo....stick to the basics with the gear until you learn How your body works. pay close attention to your diet and training and don't rely soley on the drugs, too many people do, eat sleep train and enjoy!

[jerseymuscles113]

also take 10mg nolva e3d while on cycle For estrogen control..1 week after your last shot run It At 20mg ed For 4-6weeks, also try to Get some clomid, run At 50mg ed For 2weeks

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

also take 10mg nolva e3d while on cycle For estrogen control..1 week after your last shot run It At 20mg ed For 4-6weeks, also try to Get some clomid, run At 50mg ed For 2weeks

I'd keep an AI on hand preferably Aromasin, and save the nolva/clomid for PCT

but $400 should be enough for the drugs/ancills. but def not enough for the food!

[WillGrant]

so much bullShit information....400dollar s is Not a bad price For gym prices For 3bottles of test, assuming its hg, and dbol an nolva? yes For gym prices that is fair...recommending 16 weeks For his first cycle? Lmaoo he has no idea what he's doing Or How his body responds to gear! listen Broo i'd recommend 500mg Of test 600 is fine thou, preferably pin It eod Or Atleast 3x a week, pick a dose and stay At that dose thru out your cycle...run It For 10weeks run the dboll At 30mgs a day For the first Or last 4weeks take It all 1hour pwo....stick to the basics with the gear until you learn How your body works. pay close attention to your diet and training and don't rely soley on the drugs, too many people do, eat sleep train and enjoy!

Dont listen to this idiot.
12 -16 weeks is optimal for your first run , you must get your body used to carrying the extra lean tissue ..10 weeks ? lol look fuck knuckle he is going to lose most of the lean tissue he gains when he goes off hence why you need to force your body to get accustemed to holding it.

Dbol at the start and end and not how this tard suggests.
Telling someone to stick to the basics yet you go and say run it for 10 weeks  when the majority says "basic" is 12 weeks you say its his first cycle then tell him to shoot eod ? eh arnt you the guy that weighs 160pds ?

[jerseymuscles113]

Basic cycle is 10-12 weeks moron..i said eod Or e3d with It bein sust..if he wants 2x Ew injections then he should run test E Or cyp...what's wrong with running dbol For either the first 4 Or last 4weeks??? that's more then enough For his first cycle...if you wanna just rely on the drugs then go a head and listen to this guy...wanna do It the right way? use the bare minimum amount Of drugs and focus on your training methods and most importantly your diet!

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

Basic cycle is 10-12 weeks moron..i said eod Or e3d with It bein sust..if he wants 2x Ew injections then he should run test E Or cyp...what's wrong with running dbol For either the first 4 Or last 4weeks??? that's more then enough For his first cycle...if you wanna just rely on the drugs then go a head and listen to this guy...wanna do It the right way? use the bare minimum amount Of drugs and focus on your training methods and most importantly your diet!

Thats bullshit, you can run Sustanon 2x/week and be just fine 

Piss off back to Belmar Guid Fag

[tstmaniac]

Its much better to shoot sust every other day..what's wrong with a ten week cycle?

[jerseymuscles113]

Yup prop and phenyl prop should be injected 2x a week what was i thinkin....your obviously Like every other retard...oh he's from Jersey, must be a guido...wrong ass hole, i actually Can't stand them...but please tell me How you benefit from those esters bein injected only 2x a week

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

Yup prop and phenyl prop should be injected 2x a week what was i thinkin....your obviously Like every other retard...oh he's from Jersey, must be a guido...wrong ass hole, i actually Can't stand them...but please tell me How you benefit from those esters bein injected only 2x a week

You can get away injecting Sust 2x/week....Not optimal..but can be done...

You are a fucking moron and give out terrible advice. Shut your mouth little boy 

[mitchyboy]

Hahaha, i didnt mean to start a pissing match here  K ill try and make sense of whats going on here lol. I thought sust was a longer acting drug so 2 a weeks would be fine??? I dont realy feel like pinning myself every day if i dont have to.
 
 I tend 2 agree with running a longer cycle to allow it to "set in" and "harden up".

Ive run the designers and oc stuff with damn fine results, so i know i respond to synthetics.

If im running 600 a week, do i just split the doses into smaller groupings to run eod? not sure how that works. Like 100 eod?
Again this is pretty new to me

Were im getting my stuff, they will give me all the info on pinning, and all the when's where's and why's, its the pct and anti es im woried about mostly. dont wanna get bitchys.

Thanks for all the help. 

[CAPTAIN INSANO]

Hahaha, i didnt mean to start a pissing match here  K ill try and make sense of whats going on here lol. I thought sust was a longer acting drug so 2 a weeks would be fine??? I dont realy feel like pinning myself every day if i dont have to.
 
 I tend 2 agree with running a longer cycle to allow it to "set in" and "harden up".

Ive run the designers and oc stuff with damn fine results, so i know i respond to synthetics.

If im running 600 a week, do i just split the doses into smaller groupings to run eod? not sure how that works. Like 100 eod?
Again this is pretty new to me

Were im getting my stuff, they will give me all the info on pinning, and all the when's where's and why's, its the pct and anti es im woried about mostly. dont wanna get bitchys.

Thanks for all the help. 

Forget the Sust.

Seems like you need to do some more research first.

Weeks 1-14 Test E 500 mg/week
Weeks 1-4 Dbol 50 mg ED

PCT weeks 16-20: Nolva/Clomid 20/50 mg ED

[mitchyboy]

Thx Capn. First thing ive read that makes sense lol. Yeah im in the begining stages here, but it is gonna happen.
 thanks and peace

[jerseymuscles113]

2x a week isn't optimal agreed! why i recommended using a different ester Or more frequent injections!! and bad advice?? what bad advice did i just give? i don't see any...the only thing your saying that i didn't is the length Of the cycle..i said 10 based on the knowledge that he had no experience and didn't know How his body would react..so running a shorter cycle to learn his body and ease into AAS  usage is Not a bad idea...you wanna do longer cycles fine! i do also..too many people jump into this game with out having proper knowledge hence the recommendation  to test the waters so to speak with a lighter shorter cycle!

[jerseymuscles113]

still no ones going to tell me where i'm wrong? i'd really love to know

[smoothasf]

Ignore them all hgh 4ius a day. Test 1000mgs per week, equipoise 600mg per week tren 75 eod
Gh15 approved

[tstmaniac]

Hey dumbass its his first cycle...what kind of idiotic advice are you tryin to give?