tren e is a mother fucker

[MMA animal]

took some tren e, i use to run 4 miles in just under 30 min, now forget about it, i feel like i am going to die, forget about sparring 7 to 8 rounds, what a waste

[tstmaniac]

Substitute the tren with some masteron...my cardio is damn good on mast.

[WillGrant]

LOL - why do you want to run 4 miles if you are building muscle 

[Arnold jr]

took some tren e, i use to run 4 miles in just under 30 min, now forget about it, i feel like i am going to die, forget about sparring 7 to 8 rounds, what a waste

Tren can be really hard on your cardiovascular training, which is a shame since it is the best steroid on planet earth.

[MMA animal]

i guess no point in being big, strong and bench press a car if you cant run a few miles lol atleast my theory

[notsureifsrs]

Tren can be really hard on your cardiovascular training, which is a shame since it is the best steroid on planet earth.

I know it's quite OT, but what is your opinion about the right test- tren ratio (for mass gain purpose)?

[NewDawn]

i guess no point in being big, strong and bench press a car if you cant run a few miles lol atleast my theory

Did you not do any research on the side effects of tren before using it? Tren is hella hard on the cardiovascular system.

[rccs]

i guess no point in being big, strong and bench press a car if you cant run a few miles lol atleast my theory

Choose the right drugs and stop whining... Masteron, Oxandrolone and test prop and you will be flying ...

[tstmaniac]

Choose the right drugs and stop whining... Masteron, Oxandrolone and test prop and you will be flying ...

I'm thinkin for my next fight to use masteron and anavar only

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

i guess no point in being big, strong and bench press a car if you cant run a few miles lol atleast my theory

lmfao.... now thats some good stuff there

[bigjohn_bluesfan]

I know it's quite OT, but what is your opinion about the right test- tren ratio (for mass gain purpose)?

not being a smartass, but the obvious would apply here. use as musch test as your body can reasonably deal with (probably 1000 migs per week if you have half a penis) in relation to a reasonable amount of tren. I think its a safe rule in just about any application to keep the test at least a 25% more but really 50% more is ideal. In other words, when i used to love to run sustanon and deca, i woul run 500 migs deca per week and 1000 migs sustanon. I am not the expert on tremn but I think about the same rules apply.

[WillGrant]

not being a smartass, but the obvious would apply here. use as musch test as your body can reasonably deal with (probably 1000 migs per week if you have half a penis) in relation to a reasonable amount of tren. I think its a safe rule in just about any application to keep the test at least a 25% more but really 50% more is ideal. In other words, when i used to love to run sustanon and deca, i woul run 500 migs deca per week and 1000 migs sustanon. I am not the expert on tremn but I think about the same rules apply.

Use guidelines then work from there - everyones chemistry is different. 

[Arnold jr]

I know it's quite OT, but what is your opinion about the right test- tren ratio (for mass gain purpose)?

I wouldn't say there's a ratio that's set in stone; each person is going to be different and the "ration" will necessarily vary on that basis. Even so, there are good guidelines so to speak, for example, I'd never run more tren than test, I'd always make it at least 50/50 but a little more test than tren will always be a safer bet IMO.