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Why Hillary Clinton must run in 2012
« on: April 04, 2011, 11:12:08 AM »
Why Hillary Clinton must run in 2012


If Hillary Clinton's primary voters and President Obama had their relationship status listed on their Facebook pages, it would change from “Married” to “It's complicated.”

To be fair, Hillary voters never fell in love with Obama, they just fell in line. Their relationship is less like a Julia Roberts chick flick and more like a Bengali arranged marriage.   

Because of their arrangement, Hillary-loving Obama voters are quick to jump ship whenever Mr. Hope-and-Change looks like he's getting played again by his political opponents, is in over his head or is dissing their girl.

Despite Obama's anti-climactic campaign announcement just now, according to all the recent polls, Hillary voters aren't only jumping ship –- they're taking their fins, snorkels and pina coladas with them.

A new Quinnipiac University poll shows President Obama's approval rating at....

...a pathetic 42% –- down four points from early March. The American public isn't impressed with his handling of the crisis in Libya either -– with 47% of the public against the war and 58% of registered voters saying the president has not clearly stated U.S. goals for the mission. 

These numbers are bad –- really bad –- CNN prime time ratings bad.
To put them into context, according to Gallup, 76% of Americans supported military action against Iraq in 2003, 90% gave the A-OK for strikes against Afghanistan in 2001, and 65% approved of putting boots on the ground in Somalia in 1993. 

It's also important to state that this isn't part of a "throw all the bums out" mood directed at Washington.

The approval numbers for Hillary are nearing an all-time high –- with Gallup showing 66% of Americans giving "Hill the Thrill" a big thumbs up –- up from 61% in July.

This leads to the questions: Why are one out of three Hillary lovers giving Obama bad marks? Will they stick with him in November 2012?

And, most importantly, if she senses enough blood in the water, will Hillary quit the administration and launch a primary bid against Obama?

Hill-rage at Obama

Hillary Clinton's big selling point during the 2008 Democratic primaries was that she was an experienced hand who's been around the block a few times...not like how her husband has been around the block...but, you get the point.

Then-Sen. Clinton's "3 AM Phone Call" ad drove that point home. The 30-second TV spot raised the possibility of a future world crisis and asked voters who they would want in the White House making the big decisions if all hell broke loose. 

Hillary voters ate it up with a spoon –- deciding that an awakened and enraged Clinton with cold cream on her face and curlers in her hair is far scarier to third-world despots than an ex-Illinois state senator.

The military action in Libya is Team Hillary's 'I told you so' moment...with Hillary serving as the realistic, aggressive war hawk and Obama being a not-ready-for-prime-time waffler.

This frustration was expressed by a Clinton insider in the British newspaper The Daily, who said, "Obviously, she’s not happy with dealing with a president who can’t decide if today is Tuesday or Wednesday, who can’t make his mind up...it’s like playing sports with a bunch of amateurs. And she doesn’t have any power. She’s trying to do what she can to keep things from imploding.”

This may not be a vote of no confidence...but at a minimum, it's voting 'present.'

Hill today, gone tomorrow

Hillary voters weren't swooned by Obama in the 2008 Democratic primaries and many are abandoning him in public opinion surveys today. But are they mad enough to ride the elephant in 2012? 

Get out the saddle, because that's exactly what they did in 2010.

In the midterm elections, while it's true the Democrats were routed everywhere, they got especially creamed in states where Hillary did well. In House races, the Democrats lost four seats in Florida, six in New York, five in Ohio, four in Pennsylvania and three in Texas –- all states Hillary carried in the 2008 Democratic primaries. 

Meanwhile, the Democrats strengthened their hand in places that went heavily for Obama in 2008 –- with pickups in Hawaii, Delaware and the MSNBC prime-time lineup.

The lesson: Hillary voters aren't only willing to pull the plug on their fellow Democrats -– they're willing to yank it like they're starting a lawn mower.

What the Hill? Hillary in 2012?

While it's true the Clintons are ambitious people, they've never been known to go on suicide missions -– those are for terrorists and hotel chains willing to rent rooms to Charlie Sheen. 

Despite her contemporary denials, Hillary would only throw her hat in the ring if she thought she had a better than even chance at moving back into the White House. Obama is looking weak, but not weak enough to justify a primary challenge...yet.

If Libya turns into a full blown disaster...resulting in billions of dollars wasted, boots on the ground and abysmal public opinion numbers, my money is on Hillary resigning her post as secretary of State and jumping in the 2012 primary.

She can even rerun the "3 AM Phone Call" ad...with the tagline 'See, I told you so.'

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2011/04/hillary-clinton-obama-john-phillips.html


Would she win a challenge against the God-King Messiah? I think so.


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Re: Why Hillary Clinton must run in 2012
« Reply #1 on: April 04, 2011, 11:16:20 AM »
Problem is that if Lybia goes bad Bama will point the finger at her for getting him in to it.   Not that that excuses him of course, but bama is the master of passing the blame for things o t others. 

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Re: Why Hillary Clinton must run in 2012
« Reply #2 on: April 04, 2011, 11:17:14 AM »
Problem is that if Lybia goes bad Bama will point the finger at her for getting him in to it.   Not that that excuses him of course, but bama is the master of passing the blame for things o t others.  

The Libya disaster aside, I'd still rather have Hillary than the current failure sitting in the WH.

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Re: Why Hillary Clinton must run in 2012
« Reply #3 on: April 04, 2011, 11:18:12 AM »
The Libya disaster aside, I'd still rather have Hillary than the current failure sitting in the WH.

I would vote for Gadaffi / Madoff 2012 over obama at this point.   Not kidding at all.   

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Re: Why Hillary Clinton must run in 2012
« Reply #4 on: April 04, 2011, 11:19:37 AM »
I would vote for Gadaffi / Madoff 2012 over obama at this point.   Not kidding at all.   

Saddest part is that Gadaffi has been running circles around Obama on this whole Libya affair. That just shows how truly out of his league this guy is.

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Re: Why Hillary Clinton must run in 2012
« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2011, 11:22:32 AM »
Even Business Insider who often kneepads for Barry is running a front page articlehow Gadaffi already boxed in obama and nothing will chance unless we send boots on the ground over there.   


Guess where we heard that WEEKS AGO?

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Re: Why Hillary Clinton must run in 2012
« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2011, 11:26:39 AM »
Even Business Insider who often kneepads for Barry is running a front page articlehow Gadaffi already boxed in obama and nothing will chance unless we send boots on the ground over there.   


Guess where we heard that WEEKS AGO?

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Re: Why Hillary Clinton must run in 2012
« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2011, 03:36:49 PM »
The Libya disaster aside, I'd still rather have Hillary than the current failure sitting in the WH.

True, election was just bad timing. People got on the Obama bandwagon late in the game and a few states couldn't hold primary's that she would've taken and possibly secured the Dem nomination. An unfortunate course of events that worked out poorly.