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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2011, 08:17:25 PM »
muscle is built in the offeason, not when dieting. run gear year round if you want to be big, and stay lean so you can bulk for longer and diet for shorter. when prepping, drop calories just a couple hundred below maintanence, and add in some cardio when/if needed. keep lifting heavy and youll stay big.. drop the weights and try to burn fat with your workouts and youll end up losing muscle. these huge cycles would be better off if you spread the gear out, stayed on continuously year round. this game isnt a sprint, its a marathon.. that being said, the guys who win are sprinting for the whole fucking marathon.  ;)

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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2011, 09:20:10 PM »
muscle is built in the offeason, not when dieting. run gear year round if you want to be big, and stay lean so you can bulk for longer and diet for shorter. when prepping, drop calories just a couple hundred below maintanence, and add in some cardio when/if needed. keep lifting heavy and youll stay big.. drop the weights and try to burn fat with your workouts and youll end up losing muscle. these huge cycles would be better off if you spread the gear out, stayed on continuously year round. this game isnt a sprint, its a marathon.. that being said, the guys who win are sprinting for the whole fucking marathon.  ;)

Very good points, i agree about lifting heavy
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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #27 on: January 26, 2011, 09:49:19 PM »
muscle is built in the offeason, not when dieting. run gear year round if you want to be big, and stay lean so you can bulk for longer and diet for shorter. when prepping, drop calories just a couple hundred below maintanence, and add in some cardio when/if needed. keep lifting heavy and youll stay big.. drop the weights and try to burn fat with your workouts and youll end up losing muscle. these huge cycles would be better off if you spread the gear out, stayed on continuously year round. this game isnt a sprint, its a marathon.. that being said, the guys who win are sprinting for the whole fucking marathon.  ;)

agree Tbombz. If your young though I dont think there is any need to get on huge doses. Your gonna have to look like a fitness model before you look like a bber anyways. All these guys burn out fast and ruin their physiques.
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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2011, 01:11:57 AM »
i dissagree,,,,, when your young you can totaly transform your body, in some ways i think i wasted my time in my late teens playing it safe... id of rather never touched drugs in the 1st place or realy went home and done what it takes to make a propper impact

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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #29 on: February 20, 2011, 04:01:00 PM »
i have some what different views on this topic,
A newbie 18 years, 140lbs at 5 feet 8 inches old would need 3 years of focused serious lifting to build a muscle base, so prolly he would weigh 175 after 3 years of lifting,
During this time he must understand various concepts of
1) Proper form
2) Concept of progressive lifting
3) Periodization
4) How to set up his PERSONAL diet for muscle building and what to expect out of it.
5) RE-SEARCH AAS-PCT---THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT-HOW TO PREVENT SIDES ETC AS MUCH AS HE CAN. SAMPLE LIST AS
Supportive Drug Therapy for Prophylaxis

1. Cardiovascular Support
a) Fish Oil Capsules 10 x 1000mg
b) CQ-10 - 200-400mg/day
c) Niacin Sustained Release-500-1000mg
d) Aspirin 75 mg -150mg
e) ACE inhibitors (ramipril 2-5 to 7.5mg) for blood pressure

2. Liver support
a) Liv-52 four to six single strength tablets
b) Milk-thistle
c) Syntherigine

3. Prostrate, Acne and Hairloss-DHT Control
Finpecia 1mg MON + THURS

4.Testicular Function and Size
HCG-1000iu-2000iu/sunday

5. Estrogen Management
Anti-Aromatase
a) Aromasin
b) Letrozole
c) Arimidex

6.Anti-estrogens
a) Tamoxifen Citrate
b) Clomiphene Citrate
{These should not be used when prolactin producing compounds are being used}

7.Prolactin Control
a) Cabergoline - 1mg MON+THURS
b) Pramipexole

8. Opioid Antagonists
a) Naltrexone 5mg MON+THURS

9. General health support
a) Multi-vitamin+Multimineral x 2tabs/day
b) Vitamin E-800iu (Primary Anti-oxidant)
c) Vitamin C-2000mg (secondary Anti-oxidant)

10. Joint support
a) Glucosamine-Sulphate-2000mg
b) MSM powder-2000mg

11. Reno-protective
a) 6 liters of water a day

these are a list of supplements that may help the bodybuilder prolong good health and prevent side-effects. so i thought i`ll put a list may be useful for new guys.

when this guy is well versed with all of the above then he can SURELY GET AWAY WITH 5 YEARS OF AAS USE without dying of heart attack(Huge supportive therapy drugs + proper PCT etc) TO BUILD A HUGE MUSCLE BASE.

THEN WHEN HE IS READY HE CAN DEVOTE A 5 YEARS OF PROGRESSIVE DIET---PROGRESSIVE TRAINING---PROGRESSIVE CYCLING TO GIAN AS MUCH AS HE CAN
YEAR 1.
 
CYCLE-1
8 WEEKS OF 500MG TEST + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST AND START NEXT CYCLE

CYCLE-2
8 WEEKS OF 500MG TEST + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST AND

CYCLE-3
8 WEEKS OF 500MG TEST + 300MG DECA + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-4
8 WEEKS OF 750MG TEST + 400MG BOLDENONE + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

YEAR-2

CYCLE-1
10 WEEKS OF 1000MG TEST + 400MG DECA-DURABOLIN + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-2
10 WEEKS OF 1000MG TEST + 400MG BOLDENONE + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-3
10 WEEKS OF 1000MG TEST + 150 MG TREN + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

YEAR-3

CYCLE-1
10 WEEKS OF 1250MG TEST + 600MG DECA-DURABOLIN + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-2
10 WEEKS OF 1250MG TEST + 600MG BOLDENONE + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-3
10 WEEKS OF 1250MG TEST + 150 MG TREN + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

YEAR 4.
* INCLUDING 4IU GH ALL YEAR LONG

CYCLE-1
12 WEEKS OF 1500MG TEST + 600MG DECA-DURABOLIN +D-BALL-25MG ED FOR LAST 4 WEEKS--- 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-2
12WEEKS OF 1500MG TEST + 800MG BOLDENONE + D-BALL-25MG ED FOR LAST 4 WEEKS  6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-3
12 WEEKS OF 1500MG TEST + 300 MG TREN + ANADROL-50MG D-BALL-25MG ED FOR LAST 4 WEEKS  6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

YEAR 5.
INCLUDING 8IU GH ON CYCLE AND 4IU OFF CYCLE

CYCLE-1
12 WEEKS OF 2000MG TEST + 600MG DECA-DURABOLIN +D-BALL-25MG ED+INSULIN 6IU/POST WORKOUT FOR LAST 4 WEEKS--- 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-2
12WEEKS OF 2000MG TEST + 800MG BOLDENONE + D-BALL-25MG ED +INSULIN 6IU/POST WORKOUT FOR LAST 4 WEEKS  6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-3
12 WEEKS OF 2000MG TEST + 450 MG TREN + ANADROL-50MG D-BALL-25MG ED+INSULIN 10IU/POST WORKOUT+BREAKFAST FOR LAST 4 WEEKS  6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

NOW AFTER 16 CYCLES IN 5 YEARS THIS 175 LBS GUY WILL COME TO KNOW HIS STATUS--IF HE HAS IT IN HIM THEN ON AN AVERAGE HE MAY GAIN 75-100LBS MUSCLE IN 5 YEARS( 6LBS MUSCLE GAIN PER CYCLE)

NOW REGARDING THE SIDE EFFECTS I WOULD ASK THIS GUY TO RE-SEARCH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ON SUPPORTIVE DRUG THERAPY

My dietary recommendation to this guy would be to (on cycle or off cycle)
eat Protein = 2-2.5 grams x "lean body mass"
     Fats= 0.5 grams  x "lean body mass"
     Carbohydrate - as required if he feels bloated then reduce carbs or feels flat then add more carbs

NEVER OVER-EXPECT FROM A GREAT DIET

Always train heavy on cycle or off cycle[/b]

this way he develops all the muscle mass he can according to his genetics, at the age of 27 he will be a MONSTER.
ONCE THE GUY IS ABLE TO CREATE THE MUSCLE BASE(then this muscle base as muscle memory stays with you)---THEN ALL HE WOULD NEED IS TO BE ON FOR 4-6 MONTHS A YEAR TO PREP FOR A COMP.

just my opinion
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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #30 on: February 23, 2011, 11:29:43 AM »
actually, thats great advice for anyone looking to be competitive,,, usualy most (including my self) only look a year ahead at the most

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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #31 on: February 24, 2011, 07:30:27 PM »
I like this dr intensity dude  8)

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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #32 on: February 25, 2011, 03:20:46 PM »
Nice post Dr Intensity. Year 5 is a monster cycle, I can't imagine going through that much product

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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #33 on: March 07, 2011, 08:16:58 AM »
i have some what different views on this topic,
A newbie 18 years, 140lbs at 5 feet 8 inches old would need 3 years of focused serious lifting to build a muscle base, so prolly he would weigh 175 after 3 years of lifting,
During this time he must understand various concepts of
1) Proper form
2) Concept of progressive lifting
3) Periodization
4) How to set up his PERSONAL diet for muscle building and what to expect out of it.
5) RE-SEARCH AAS-PCT---THE MOST IMPORTANT ASPECT-HOW TO PREVENT SIDES ETC AS MUCH AS HE CAN. SAMPLE LIST AS
Supportive Drug Therapy for Prophylaxis

1. Cardiovascular Support
a) Fish Oil Capsules 10 x 1000mg
b) CQ-10 - 200-400mg/day
c) Niacin Sustained Release-500-1000mg
d) Aspirin 75 mg -150mg
e) ACE inhibitors (ramipril 2-5 to 7.5mg) for blood pressure

2. Liver support
a) Liv-52 four to six single strength tablets
b) Milk-thistle
c) Syntherigine

3. Prostrate, Acne and Hairloss-DHT Control
Finpecia 1mg MON + THURS

4.Testicular Function and Size
HCG-1000iu-2000iu/sunday

5. Estrogen Management
Anti-Aromatase
a) Aromasin
b) Letrozole
c) Arimidex

6.Anti-estrogens
a) Tamoxifen Citrate
b) Clomiphene Citrate
{These should not be used when prolactin producing compounds are being used}

7.Prolactin Control
a) Cabergoline - 1mg MON+THURS
b) Pramipexole

8. Opioid Antagonists
a) Naltrexone 5mg MON+THURS

9. General health support
a) Multi-vitamin+Multimineral x 2tabs/day
b) Vitamin E-800iu (Primary Anti-oxidant)
c) Vitamin C-2000mg (secondary Anti-oxidant)

10. Joint support
a) Glucosamine-Sulphate-2000mg
b) MSM powder-2000mg

11. Reno-protective
a) 6 liters of water a day

these are a list of supplements that may help the bodybuilder prolong good health and prevent side-effects. so i thought i`ll put a list may be useful for new guys.

when this guy is well versed with all of the above then he can SURELY GET AWAY WITH 5 YEARS OF AAS USE without dying of heart attack(Huge supportive therapy drugs + proper PCT etc) TO BUILD A HUGE MUSCLE BASE.

THEN WHEN HE IS READY HE CAN DEVOTE A 5 YEARS OF PROGRESSIVE DIET---PROGRESSIVE TRAINING---PROGRESSIVE CYCLING TO GIAN AS MUCH AS HE CAN
YEAR 1.
 
CYCLE-1
8 WEEKS OF 500MG TEST + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST AND START NEXT CYCLE

CYCLE-2
8 WEEKS OF 500MG TEST + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST AND

CYCLE-3
8 WEEKS OF 500MG TEST + 300MG DECA + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-4
8 WEEKS OF 750MG TEST + 400MG BOLDENONE + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

YEAR-2

CYCLE-1
10 WEEKS OF 1000MG TEST + 400MG DECA-DURABOLIN + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-2
10 WEEKS OF 1000MG TEST + 400MG BOLDENONE + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-3
10 WEEKS OF 1000MG TEST + 150 MG TREN + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

YEAR-3

CYCLE-1
10 WEEKS OF 1250MG TEST + 600MG DECA-DURABOLIN + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-2
10 WEEKS OF 1250MG TEST + 600MG BOLDENONE + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-3
10 WEEKS OF 1250MG TEST + 150 MG TREN + 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

YEAR 4.
* INCLUDING 4IU GH ALL YEAR LONG

CYCLE-1
12 WEEKS OF 1500MG TEST + 600MG DECA-DURABOLIN +D-BALL-25MG ED FOR LAST 4 WEEKS--- 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-2
12WEEKS OF 1500MG TEST + 800MG BOLDENONE + D-BALL-25MG ED FOR LAST 4 WEEKS  6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-3
12 WEEKS OF 1500MG TEST + 300 MG TREN + ANADROL-50MG D-BALL-25MG ED FOR LAST 4 WEEKS  6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

YEAR 5.
INCLUDING 8IU GH ON CYCLE AND 4IU OFF CYCLE

CYCLE-1
12 WEEKS OF 2000MG TEST + 600MG DECA-DURABOLIN +D-BALL-25MG ED+INSULIN 6IU/POST WORKOUT FOR LAST 4 WEEKS--- 6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-2
12WEEKS OF 2000MG TEST + 800MG BOLDENONE + D-BALL-25MG ED +INSULIN 6IU/POST WORKOUT FOR LAST 4 WEEKS  6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

CYCLE-3
12 WEEKS OF 2000MG TEST + 450 MG TREN + ANADROL-50MG D-BALL-25MG ED+INSULIN 10IU/POST WORKOUT+BREAKFAST FOR LAST 4 WEEKS  6 WEEK PCT + 4 WEEKS OFF THEN BLOOD TEST

NOW AFTER 16 CYCLES IN 5 YEARS THIS 175 LBS GUY WILL COME TO KNOW HIS STATUS--IF HE HAS IT IN HIM THEN ON AN AVERAGE HE MAY GAIN 75-100LBS MUSCLE IN 5 YEARS( 6LBS MUSCLE GAIN PER CYCLE)

NOW REGARDING THE SIDE EFFECTS I WOULD ASK THIS GUY TO RE-SEARCH AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE ON SUPPORTIVE DRUG THERAPY

My dietary recommendation to this guy would be to (on cycle or off cycle)
eat Protein = 2-2.5 grams x "lean body mass"
     Fats= 0.5 grams  x "lean body mass"
     Carbohydrate - as required if he feels bloated then reduce carbs or feels flat then add more carbs

NEVER OVER-EXPECT FROM A GREAT DIET

Always train heavy on cycle or off cycle[/b]

this way he develops all the muscle mass he can according to his genetics, at the age of 27 he will be a MONSTER.
ONCE THE GUY IS ABLE TO CREATE THE MUSCLE BASE(then this muscle base as muscle memory stays with you)---THEN ALL HE WOULD NEED IS TO BE ON FOR 4-6 MONTHS A YEAR TO PREP FOR A COMP.

just my opinion
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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #34 on: April 20, 2011, 06:11:17 PM »
thanks guys :)

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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #35 on: April 20, 2011, 07:36:35 PM »
god that is some confusing shit...

Here's the stock one I made up with no refinement and has worked great on most people that have used it..


Week 12 - 8
Test Prop
Tren A
HGH
 
Week 8 - 4
Test Prop
Tren A
Mast A
HGH
 
Week 4 - 2
Tren A
Mast A
Winstrol
Letro
HGH
 
Week 2 - 0
Mast A
Winstrol
Halo
Letro
 
T3 and clen all the way through, low T3 (no more than 25mcg) during last week / carb up.
 

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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #36 on: April 20, 2011, 10:54:44 PM »
some serious rocket scientists in here.  :D ;D

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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #37 on: April 21, 2011, 12:51:01 AM »
too many complications / bro science for nothing..  :-\

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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #38 on: April 21, 2011, 04:44:28 AM »
god that is some confusing shit...

Here's the stock one I made up with no refinement and has worked great on most people that have used it..


Week 12 - 8
Test Prop
Tren A
HGH
 
Week 8 - 4
Test Prop
Tren A
Mast A
HGH
 
Week 4 - 2
Tren A
Mast A
Winstrol
Letro
HGH
 
Week 2 - 0
Mast A
Winstrol
Halo
Letro
 
T3 and clen all the way through, low T3 (no more than 25mcg) during last week / carb up.
 

this is pretty much my thoughts too...effective, yet simple

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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #39 on: April 21, 2011, 05:27:17 AM »
too many complications / bro science for nothing..  :-\
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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #40 on: April 21, 2011, 10:21:40 AM »
god that is some confusing shit...

Here's the stock one I made up with no refinement and has worked great on most people that have used it..


Week 12 - 8
Test Prop
Tren A
HGH
 
Week 8 - 4
Test Prop
Tren A
Mast A
HGH
 
Week 4 - 2
Tren A
Mast A
Winstrol
Letro
HGH
 
Week 2 - 0
Mast A
Winstrol
Halo
Letro
 
T3 and clen all the way through, low T3 (no more than 25mcg) during last week / carb up.
 

actually what i also like here is that masteron isn't added before 8 weeks out and is the only ai used until 4 weeks out...imo, you shouldn't kill all estro too early, it will only give you joint pain, headache, sex and skin problems...it's better to keep yourself little watery and a lot happier ;D the idea is to destroy your estrogen fast and effectively and then after the show get it back up again...healthier, easier to handle and more effective!

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Re: Contest Prep Cycles
« Reply #41 on: April 21, 2011, 02:52:30 PM »
god that is some confusing shit...

Here's the stock one I made up with no refinement and has worked great on most people that have used it..


Week 12 - 8
Test Prop
Tren A
HGH
 
Week 8 - 4
Test Prop
Tren A
Mast A
HGH
 
Week 4 - 2
Tren A
Mast A
Winstrol
Letro
HGH
 
Week 2 - 0
Mast A
Winstrol
Halo
Letro
 
T3 and clen all the way through, low T3 (no more than 25mcg) during last week / carb up.
 

I don't see a need for Masteron in this play if Tren-a, winny and halo is being used; in most cases the tren and winny will harden you up as much as possible and with the added halo it will know doubt...IMO the Masteron is overkill.

I also don't care for taking the test out for a full 4wks. Test will give you a fuller look and there's no reason to be concerned with water retention when you're on test if your diet and prep is on point. The earliest I'll ever pull test out of a guy is 10 days out and in many cases, and it's a case by case basis I'll have them keep it in all the way to the show.

T3, a lot of guys are simply going to need more than 25mcg, some want but more will.

I'd also prefer an AI throughout...will keep estrogenic sides at bay as well as aid in more efficient fat loss.