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Re: FU OBAMA
« Reply #75 on: November 16, 2011, 04:33:32 PM »
Really? Tell that to the third world rebel armies who have held off better armed forces with simple aks and rpgs.
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« Reply #76 on: November 16, 2011, 06:49:30 PM »
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Nah Makavali25 has valid point.   ;)  I just figured initially what the hell kind of threat am I with a high powered rifle or shotgun when compared to the government.  So I was thinking why do they want to control my guns so much.  I also assumed anything else fancy is out of reach $ wise.  (like them class 3 whatever, and automatic, etc guns)

But Makavali25 is totally right.  If there are more civilians with simple shotguns and rifles they can probably overrun a smaller population of military. Especially if those civilians have a real strong motive to fight.

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Re: FU OBAMA
« Reply #77 on: November 16, 2011, 06:55:03 PM »
Good for you bro you understand! Why should the government be the only ones to be armed. It's a scary thought. A lot of people have class three weapons to (fully automatic weapons silencers etc.) That stuff cost thousands of dollars though!

Thanks man, and yeah I agree the government should not be the only ones allowed to be armed.  When the government tries to control guns in the name of safety I say BS.  A criminal will get it illegally anyways.  Not some dude wanting to hunt deer, target practice, or just collect weapons for fun.   

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Re: FU OBAMA
« Reply #78 on: November 16, 2011, 08:40:43 PM »
Thanks man, and yeah I agree the government should not be the only ones allowed to be armed.  When the government tries to control guns in the name of safety I say BS.  A criminal will get it illegally anyways.  Not some dude wanting to hunt deer, target practice, or just collect weapons for fun.   

I agree in principles, but perhaps not entirely in practice. Don't misunderstand: I don't want a government apparatchik deciding who's fit to own weapons. But at the same time, I don't have a problem with sensible regulations that aren't overly restrictive and don't pose burdens to people wishing to buy weapons.

For example, I have no problem with bans on gun ownership for convicted felons, or with having processes in place to prevent people (with proper judicial oversight) who have a history of mental illness from purchasing weapons. I don't support the "assault weapons ban" in general. But at the same time I don't think that one should be able to walk into the local gun store and walk out with an M2 Browning (.50 caliber, up to 1200 rounds/min) no questions asked.

The problem will never be solved because politicians present it as a black and white issue and pander to the fringes. And when it comes down it, it's not a black and white issue. There's gradations. But inflammatory rhetoric pays off at the ballot box.

One side needs to accept that the Second Amendment is part of the Constitution and that Americans can keep and bear arms. The other side needs to accept that not every attempt is an attempt to take its guns away.

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« Reply #79 on: November 16, 2011, 10:31:31 PM »
I got your point and I don't have the figures, but countries that allow possesion of guns got higher murder rates and agression. Holland is next to Belgium, where it's almost as easy to get a gun license as in the US and they got a lot more murders over there..... :-\
sadly its apparent some people just dont like the truth when it gets in the way of their preconceptions. makaveli acted like he didnt even read your reply.  blah, conservative... such a sad group of people. i feel sorry for them.



Back in 2002 I bought a plot of land in a rural part of Ohio and built my house.

About 100 yards from my house was public land where you could hunt birds and rabbits.

In '03 I got a call from my wife saying my son was being rushed to the hospital with a gunshot wound to the stomach.

A stray .22 bullet from a guy rabbit hunting had hit my boy and went through his liver.  The response time from the EMT was nearly 40 minutes and he had lost too much blood by the time he reached the hospital.  He died in front of my wife in the back of the ambulance.
 
I blame myself for building my house so close to public hunting grounds.  However, we were the 5th house to go up on that rural road within a couple years.  That area was becoming too populated to have a public hunting ground nearby.
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Re: FU OBAMA
« Reply #80 on: November 16, 2011, 10:46:49 PM »
i love guns, i carry with a permit, and i love the 2nd amendment.

But i am damn sick of people going 1/2 mile from my florida home to the woods or wetlands, and shooting off AKs at all hours of a drunkeen friday night, with no regard for backstop or where those bullets might land.

So I'm okay with this.  If you want to shoot a gun, do it on your own property, at a range, whatever.  But just pulling your trunk up to 'public lands' and drinking a case of beer while firing rounds into the night... no way.

Well I think it should be a felonly to operate a firearm with alcohol in your system, similar to a DUI. Also plinking at night? WTF ?


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Re: FU OBAMA
« Reply #81 on: November 16, 2011, 10:59:40 PM »
This is another 10 pager in the works...

Bottom line is this: All you non gun people... just please shut the fuck up and join the 99% dumbfucks already.

I own 2 pistols, 1 rifle and a shotgun and know a lot of people who have them as well. We're all law abiding, tax paying, working citizens with clean criminal records. We're just responsible recreational shooters who love to shoot guns. Where the fuck does there seem to be the problem?

Why intrude on the freedom of others because only a few ffuckheads seem to use guns with criminal intent?

Why doesn't anyone ever actually check the facts about guns as a crime deterrent in places where concealed carry is legal?

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Re: FU OBAMA
« Reply #82 on: November 16, 2011, 11:02:36 PM »
Back in 2002 I bought a plot of land in a rural part of Ohio and built my house.

About 100 yards from my house was public land where you could hunt birds and rabbits.

In '03 I got a call from my wife saying my son was being rushed to the hospital with a gunshot wound to the stomach.

A stray .22 bullet from a guy rabbit hunting had hit my boy and went through his liver.  The response time from the EMT was nearly 40 minutes and he had lost too much blood by the time he reached the hospital.  He died in front of my wife in the back of the ambulance.
 
I blame myself for building my house so close to public hunting grounds.  However, we were the 5th house to go up on that rural road within a couple years.  That area was becoming too populated to have a public hunting ground nearby.

Terrible story and I can't even comprehend what you must have went through.

I think the solution isn't to ban guns ...just limit shooting to some safe number of miles outside of an urban setting.

I don't want to start shit or to downplay your loss but same tragedy could have happened if he chased a ball in the street and got hit by a car.

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Re: FU OBAMA
« Reply #83 on: November 16, 2011, 11:03:31 PM »
I own 2 pistols, 1 rifle and a shotgun and know a lot of people who have them as well.


You know a lot of people who have your 2 pistols and shotgun?  ;D

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« Reply #84 on: November 16, 2011, 11:05:19 PM »
our own government weaponized mexican drug cartels.(fast and furious) anyone who is a nra member would know what im talking about.

 so stfu about anyone owning firearms and wanting to go shoot out in the desert.

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« Reply #85 on: November 16, 2011, 11:07:19 PM »
There is a big difference between having the right to own firearms to protect yourself, your family and your property, and laying down rules where you are allowed to shoot them. Now I can see where people are getting concerned though, because it can turn into a very slippery slope as far as gun control goes.

It looks like Obama is trying to push the wedge issues in hopes of getting re-elected since he isn't having any luck fixing the economy.
If you can't wait for him to be out of office, this is a very good sign.

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« Reply #86 on: November 16, 2011, 11:20:21 PM »
There is a big difference between having the right to own firearms to protect yourself, your family and your property, and laying down rules where you are allowed to shoot them. Now I can see where people are getting concerned though, because it can turn into a very slippery slope as far as gun control goes.

I think the people who are all up in arms (heh, get it?) about this are mostly overreacting. The "Obama's taking muh guns" cries are definitely overreacting. The proposed regulations should absolutely be thoroughly and closely reviewed, but from what I read so far they don't really seem all that unreasonable in general, although government agencies have a tendency to make reasonable things unreasonable with extraordinary efficiency.

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« Reply #87 on: November 17, 2011, 03:20:21 AM »
I have a 12 gauge shot gun, makes me feel safer having a cannon in my home to protect me.  More importantly I feel guns are good to protect us from our own government rather than a foreign invader.  Say the US government started trying to round us up for mass imprisonment/executions, I feel we would be able to put up a good resistance.  Guns keep the government in check. 

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Re: FU OBAMA
« Reply #88 on: November 17, 2011, 08:34:38 AM »
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/11/17/shooters-heard-interior-will-not-ban-target-practice


Good - Fuck Obama and let him rot in Kenya with his miserable pig of a wife. 


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Re: FU OBAMA
« Reply #89 on: November 17, 2011, 08:39:40 AM »
http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2011/11/17/shooters-heard-interior-will-not-ban-target-practice


Good - Fuck Obama and let him rot in Kenya with his miserable pig of a wife. 


Good.
Everything stated in that article is reasonable.
Just gotta make sure they (gov) knows when to stop, since they always overreact.