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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #50 on: January 05, 2012, 02:44:40 PM »
You're right..its all fine. Nothing wrong with letting a couple of dykes adopt a kid. Nothing wrong at all.

Did you read the entire article. I did and nowhere did I read where it states their child is adopted. Did you just assume this because two women cannot conceive a child? Did it not occur to you that one of those women might be the child's biological mother?

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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2012, 03:48:24 PM »
you close minded meatpie lol.

you are of low intellect aren't you? do you think it matters the orientation of the parent? two great mothers could raise any kid better then one avg mom and one avg dad, no fucking doubt.

that kid would grow up to respect people, love others, become accepting of others and there choices (something you cannot do).

orientation does not affect child rearing, a boy from a single mother is no likely to have less male traits then one raised with a father.

what do you think drives the clear duality which exists as gender roles? how can a person become aware of a gender identity?



I'm against homosexuals adopting or having children. I would rather just have one parent than being the kid at school with two dads no matter how qualified their parenting skills are.

Did you read the entire article. I did and nowhere did I read where it states their child is adopted. Did you just assume this because two women cannot conceive a child? Did it not occur to you that one of those women might be the child's biological mother?

click control-f and enter adopted.
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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2012, 04:02:45 PM »
I'm against homosexuals adopting or having children. I would rather just have one parent than being the kid at school with two dads no matter how qualified their parenting skills are.

click control-f and enter adopted.

ok so your reasons for this are purely altruistic, in that you solely think this way to cause the kid less bullying, how valiant of you.

only drawback is that one parent means 50% less parenting unless that person picks up the slack but suffice to say two parents would ensure more physical human contact and parenting just from the ailments one person could suffer from, perhaps this drawback would have more of a negative outcome on the childs life then bullying. I would also point out that you are committing an agregious fallacy in believing that everyone thinks like you and that this child will be bullied, however, if kids were open and taught to be accepting i bet that would change everyone for the better. I dont think the solution to bullying is to remove percipitating factors like same sex parents but rather to kill it at its etiological roots, ie stop bullying by stopping bullies and lower prejudices and boundaries between people. Perhaps this is a better way to go, in fact it clearly is, however, are you of the position that this is an utopian ideal and could not be achieved hence why try and do the best we can?

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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2012, 04:33:19 PM »
ok so your reasons for this are purely altruistic, in that you solely think this way to cause the kid less bullying, how valiant of you.

only drawback is that one parent means 50% less parenting unless that person picks up the slack but suffice to say two parents would ensure more physical human contact and parenting just from the ailments one person could suffer from, perhaps this drawback would have more of a negative outcome on the childs life then bullying. I would also point out that you are committing an agregious fallacy in believing that everyone thinks like you and that this child will be bullied, however, if kids were open and taught to be accepting i bet that would change everyone for the better. I dont think the solution to bullying is to remove percipitating factors like same sex parents but rather to kill it at its etiological roots, ie stop bullying by stopping bullies and lower prejudices and boundaries between people. Perhaps this is a better way to go, in fact it clearly is, however, are you of the position that this is an utopian ideal and could not be achieved hence why try and do the best we can?

Well, this same sex parenting is a new thing and only with time we'll be able to see how it develops. It will be more accepted with time and will be accepted as something normal in the years to come. Obviously the children these days will suffer the greatest and I think it will cause problems for them in one way or another. And though lots of people this day and age see nothing wrong with it I think it just promotes homosexuality and no one is 100% sure whether kids will be more likely to become homosexuals....I can't prove it nor disprove it.  Even if there's a small probability of parents influencing a child's sexual preference I think a gay person wouldn't care but I'm sure you can understand when a straight person would.
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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2012, 05:55:04 PM »
Well, this same sex parenting is a new thing and only with time we'll be able to see how it develops. It will be more accepted with time and will be accepted as something normal in the years to come. Obviously the children these days will suffer the greatest and I think it will cause problems for them in one way or another. And though lots of people this day and age see nothing wrong with it I think it just promotes homosexuality and no one is 100% sure whether kids will be more likely to become homosexuals....I can't prove it nor disprove it.  Even if there's a small probability of parents influencing a child's sexual preference I think a gay person wouldn't care but I'm sure you can understand when a straight person would.

well if the childs sexual preference is homosexual swayed or not then they wouldnt have to understand your position as long as they understand theirs, perhaps you should not worry about other people and what you assume they should or will feel and allow them more rights to do as they please.

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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2012, 06:10:34 PM »
I'm against homosexuals adopting or having children. I would rather just have one parent than being the kid at school with two dads ]no matter how qualified their parenting skills are.
While I may not agree with you about this, I acknowledge that you have the right to believe as you will.

click control-f and enter adopted.

Thank you for that tool....I learn something new everyday. Also, you have my apology because obviously you were right this child was adopted.

Keep in mind though that very often one party in a gay union is often the biological parent. Not all gay couples adopt. This was pointed out before in the discussion about Elton John and his partner David. One of them (they are not saying who) is the biological parent of their child.

I want to be really clear about the fact that I have some serious misgivings about what these women are doing with this child. One can only hope that their doctor has fully advised them regarding the pitfalls of such an action. My wife and I had a discussion about this topic today. We agreed that if one of our children had been thus conflicted we would not have chosen to do what they are doing. Rather we'd stick with counseling until the child was an adult and could decide this for him or herself. I've watched news shows where straight parents are doing the same as these two women are doing. So, I don't believe their being gay has a lot to do with their decision to chemically alter this boy's future.

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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2012, 07:13:05 PM »
well if the childs sexual preference is homosexual swayed or not then they wouldnt have to understand your position as long as they understand theirs, perhaps you should not worry about other people and what you assume they should or will feel and allow them more rights to do as they please.

Well they have the right to adopt in many countries now so personal opinions don't matter. 

While I may not agree with you about this, I acknowledge that you have the right to believe as you will.

Thank you for that tool....I learn something new everyday. Also, you have my apology because obviously you were right this child was adopted.

Keep in mind though that very often one party in a gay union is often the biological parent. Not all gay couples adopt. This was pointed out before in the discussion about Elton John and his partner David. One of them (they are not saying who) is the biological parent of their child.

I want to be really clear about the fact that I have some serious misgivings about what these women are doing with this child. One can only hope that their doctor has fully advised them regarding the pitfalls of such an action. My wife and I had a discussion about this topic today. We agreed that if one of our children had been thus conflicted we would not have chosen to do what they are doing. Rather we'd stick with counseling until the child was an adult and could decide this for him or herself. I've watched news shows where straight parents are doing the same as these two women are doing. So, I don't believe their being gay has a lot to do with their decision to chemically alter this boy's future.

It would be interesting to see if the boy/girl becomes a lesbian like his moms or if he'd be a straight woman and be attracted to men.  :-\

Either way I agree in holding off with the hormone treatments and let the boy decide on his own once hes all grown up. And I'm aware they don't always adopt cause this subject comes up alot these days. I was watching a show where these two gays rented out one of their sister's(so the child would have both of their genes) womb but once she had the baby she didn't wanna give it up cause she felt like it belonged to her...lol what a messed up world this is!


 


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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2012, 05:56:18 AM »
As I stated gender identity is an issue I have difficulty understanding.

there's nothing hard about it




Buck is a chick .. you are born male or female .. with drugs chemicals and surgeries you can be made to LOOK like anything you want but the fact remains you are what you are born as .. he can get a fake penis added but will still be a chick




with a dress on you'd never know this guy was male ..

he could get his willie chopped off and the rest turned inside out but will still be a guy no matter if he's given a hole to replace his pole










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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #58 on: January 06, 2012, 08:09:33 AM »
there's nothing hard about it




Buck is a chick .. you are born male or female .. with drugs chemicals and surgeries you can be made to LOOK like anything you want but the fact remains you are what you are born as .. he can get a fake penis added but will still be a chick




with a dress on you'd never know this guy was male ..

he could get his willie chopped off and the rest turned inside out but will still be a guy no matter if he's given a hole to replace his pole











When did Branch get those tattoos?  Not good for the stage...
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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #59 on: January 06, 2012, 08:28:18 AM »
When did Branch get those tattoos?  Not good for the stage...

lol

harsh .. but funny

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« Reply #60 on: January 06, 2012, 08:30:32 AM »
lol

harsh .. but funny

So they are good for the stage?
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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #61 on: January 06, 2012, 08:33:09 AM »
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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #62 on: January 06, 2012, 08:36:48 AM »
So they are good for the stage?

 :D

better than elfin ears .. but hey .. that's just me

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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #63 on: January 06, 2012, 08:44:39 AM »
Good to see Branch looking less disgusting these days..
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« Reply #64 on: January 06, 2012, 08:48:12 AM »
:D

better than elfin ears .. but hey .. that's just me

I used your examples of Buck Angel and some random hot tranny a year or so ago to try and prove my point that sexuality is a sliding scale.  It's not gay or straight. Because a man that likes and fucks trannies isnt a homosexual, but not a heterosexual either.  And a guy that would be attracted to Buck and fuck Buck ( :D ) isn't a hetero or homo. But of course people dont understand and like the other options so it's easier for them to just say "f a g".

Of course it fell on deaf ears and except for a few that understood my point.

A different point than your but I undestand what youre saying and you are correct. This is why I now ask if "she" is a biological female XX chromosomes in some WYHI threads.
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« Reply #65 on: January 06, 2012, 10:02:11 AM »
I used your examples of Buck Angel and some random hot tranny a year or so ago to try and prove my point that sexuality is a sliding scale.  It's not gay or straight. Because a man that likes and fucks trannies isnt a homosexual, but not a heterosexual either.  And a guy that would be attracted to Buck and fuck Buck ( :D ) isn't a hetero or homo. But of course people dont understand and like the other options so it's easier for them to just say "f a g".

Of course it fell on deaf ears and except for a few that understood my point.

A different point than your but I understand what youre saying and you are correct. This is why I now ask if "she" is a biological female XX chromosomes in some WYHI threads.


thanks Wiggles .. I knew someone would "get it"  ;)

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« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2012, 10:42:13 AM »
For me parenthood should consist of a female and male part.
Should a gay couple be of higher moral fiber(being able to give love/care) than a hetero one then the same sexers are to be the preferred oinkers.
Everything equal I would want a male and female take care of the young earthling.
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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2012, 01:11:42 PM »
there's nothing hard about it

Buck is a chick .. you are born male or female .. with drugs chemicals and surgeries you can be made to LOOK like anything you want but the fact remains you are what you are born as .. he can get a fake penis added but will still be a chick

with a dress on you'd never know this guy was male ..

he could get his willie chopped off and the rest turned inside out but will still be a guy no matter if he's given a hole to replace his pole


If you mean there is nothing about this that I should have difficulty understanding, you are wrong....and you are also right. -Born male, no matter what you change, you are male. -Born female, no matter what you do, you are female....IMO. I just don't understand how people convince themselves otherwise. I also have difficulty understanding the concept of extreme body modification. Nothing on me is pierced and nothing is tattooed.  

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Primarily a Bildungsroman and family saga, the novel chronicles the impact of a mutated gene on three generations of a Greek family, causing momentous changes in the protagonist's life. According to scholars, the novel's main themes are nature versus nurture, rebirth, and the differing experiences of polar opposites—such as those found between men and women. It discusses the pursuit of the American Dream and explores gender identity. The novel contains many allusions to Greek mythology, including creatures such as the Minotaur, half-man and half-bull, and the Chimera, a monster composed of various animal parts.

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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2012, 01:30:16 PM »
The hatred is strong in this one... 


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Re: Brazilian Congressman Anti-Gay Meltdown.
« Reply #69 on: January 06, 2012, 01:42:42 PM »
well if the childs sexual preference is homosexual swayed or not then they wouldnt have to understand your position as long as they understand theirs, perhaps you should not worry about other people and what you assume they should or will feel and allow them more rights to do as they please.
that is one of the problems with this country---people want to do as they please...but then get pissed off when it doesn't go as planned or the country continually goes down the shitter---people today are like kids who need guidance...