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Beginner Cycle Sus 250 or Test E and curious about PCT
« on: January 21, 2012, 06:35:55 PM »
What do you guys think is better running sus 250 or test E for 10 weeks at 250mg twice weekly injections monday and thursday? Was just gonna run one compound by its self. Thought this was the best idea for first cycle.

Also had another questions about PCT. Some people where saying that just running Nolva 40/20/20/10 was enough. Is this true? Or do I need to run clomid and/or HCG with this cycle? Any advice would be great. This is my first injectable cycle, have run h-drol oral cycle before.

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Re: Beginner Cycle Sus 250 or Test E and curious about PCT
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2012, 08:06:37 PM »
test e or c

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Re: Beginner Cycle Sus 250 or Test E and curious about PCT
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2012, 08:19:30 PM »
I've had experience with both test e is more stable and easy to regulate sus I ran 2 times a week monday Thursday schedule and found I had a lot of sides cuase of the short and long esters attached when you first shoot the long esters take time to release where as the short esters are in and out which cuase unstable blood levels I found the best way to run sus is every other day because of the short esters in the sus

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Re: Beginner Cycle Sus 250 or Test E and curious about PCT
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2012, 08:22:45 PM »
Any test form is fine but if you want to limit injections stick with E or C.

Your PCT, I'd run the Nolva 40, 40, 40, 20, 20. HCG won't hurt anything but it's probably not all that necessary here. You don't need Clomid with your Nolva. Just pick one. If you go with Clomid you'll need doses apocalypse. 3x Nolva.

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Re: Beginner Cycle Sus 250 or Test E and curious about PCT
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2012, 11:48:10 PM »
HCG and Nolva and you're gtg. Forget clomid it'll only make you feel like a bitch.
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Re: Beginner Cycle Sus 250 or Test E and curious about PCT
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2012, 10:45:54 AM »
HCG and Nolva and you're gtg. Forget clomid it'll only make you feel like a bitch.
Yes I have heard about sides like this, really would like to avoid them if I could

How do you dose the HCG? If money really isn't a factor here is it defiantly worth it?
Also thinking about stacking dbol week 1-4 30mg daily, what do u guys think about kick starting cycle with dbol?

Will this work for dosing HCG? Anyone have any links where I can find the science behind the effects on HCG and boosting test to normal levels?
HCG 4500 iu - 1500 iu a day for 3 days EOD of week 1
HCG 3000 iu - 1000 iu a day for 3 days EOD of  week 2
HCG 1500 iu - 500 iu a day for 3 days EOD of week 3

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Re: Beginner Cycle Sus 250 or Test E and curious about PCT
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2012, 11:02:23 AM »
Yes I have heard about sides like this, really would like to avoid them if I could

How do you dose the HCG? If money really isn't a factor here is it defiantly worth it?
Also thinking about stacking dbol week 1-4 30mg daily, what do u guys think about kick starting cycle with dbol?

Will this work for dosing HCG? Anyone have any links where I can find the science behind the effects on HCG and boosting test to normal levels?
HCG 4500 iu - 1500 iu a day for 3 days EOD of week 1
HCG 3000 iu - 1000 iu a day for 3 days EOD of  week 2
HCG 1500 iu - 500 iu a day for 3 days EOD of week 3

Yes, you can use dbol. If you're going to run test c or e. def use dbol or you won't feel shit during the first 3-4 weeks.

AS for the PCT, you'll be running a very light cycle. Some might disagree but you'll be fine with hcg 1000 iu HCG eod or mon, wed, fri for 3 weeks along with the nolva. Keep the nolva 2-3 weeks more after you're done with the HCG. 
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Re: Beginner Cycle Sus 250 or Test E and curious about PCT
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2012, 12:58:59 PM »
-I would get lean before start juicing, cut down to ~8% bodyfat

-test e or sustenon no difference for me, also no difference if i pin it twice or once a week.

-no kick start, take the test see how you respond first then add something else on the 2nd or 3rd week, or up the dose. You do a little bit more thank 10 weeks but what are your objectives ?

-PCT just use clomid, it's better than nolva (don't ask me for studies on this i don't wanna waste time lol) take 50 mg ed until the box ends, or 50 ed and then 50 eod

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Re: Beginner Cycle Sus 250 or Test E and curious about PCT
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2012, 01:54:33 PM »
We don't use "PCT" around these parts.....

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Re: Beginner Cycle Sus 250 or Test E and curious about PCT
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2012, 05:01:42 PM »
We don't use "PCT" around these parts.....

I use tren for pct

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Re: Beginner Cycle Sus 250 or Test E and curious about PCT
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2012, 05:42:15 PM »
I use tren for pct

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