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Re: Tax-exempt Obama Foundation doesn’t exist at listed addresses
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2013, 10:16:45 AM »
Tell me where the bible says that that world is 6000 years old.

This ought to be good.

Notice that I have answered you, but you have not answered why you think the president is worthy of your support or undying love.  I know you are too dumb to realize it now, but this shows a lot about you.
Simply put, it came from the Bible. Of course, the Bible doesn’t say explicitly anywhere, “The earth is 6,000 years old.” Good thing it doesn’t; otherwise it would be out of date the following year. But we wouldn’t expect an all-knowing God to make that kind of a mistake.

God gave us something better. In essence, He gave us a “birth certificate.” For example, using a personal birth certificate, a person can calculate how old he is at any point. It is similar with the earth. Genesis 1 says that the earth was created on the first day of creation (Genesis 1:1–5). From there, we can begin to calculate the age of the earth.

Let’s do a rough calculation to show how this works. The age of the earth can be estimated by taking the first five days of creation (from earth’s creation to Adam), then following the genealogies from Adam to Abraham in Genesis 5 and 11, then adding in the time from Abraham to today.

Adam was created on day 6, so there were five days before him. If we add up the dates from Adam to Abraham, we get about 2,000 years, using the Masoretic Hebrew text of Genesis 5 and 11.3 Whether Christian or secular, most scholars would agree that Abraham lived about 2,000 B.C. (4,000 years ago).

So a simple calculation is:


5 days
 + ~2,000 years
 + ~4,000 years


~6,000 years

At this point, the first five days are negligible. Quite a few people have done this calculation using the Masoretic text (which is what most English translations are based on) and with careful attention to the biblical details, they have arrived at the same time frame of about 6,000 years, or about 4000 B.C. Two of the most popular, and perhaps best, are a recent work by Dr. Floyd Jones4 and a much earlier book by Archbishop James Ussher5 (1581–1656). See table 1.


Table 1. Jones and Ussher



Name

Age Calculated

Reference and Date



Archbishop James Ussher

4004 B.C.

The Annals of the World, A.D. 1658



Dr. Floyd Nolan Jones

4004 B.C.

The Chronology of the Old Testament, A.D. 1993


The misconception exists that Ussher and Jones were the only ones to arrive at a date of 4000 B.C.; however, this is not the case at all. Jones6 lists several chronologists who have undertaken the task of calculating the age of the earth based on the Bible, and their calculations range from 5501 to 3836 B.C. A few are listed in table 2.


Table 2. Chronologists’ Calculations According to Dr. Jones



 

Chronologist

When Calculated?

Date B.C.



1

Julius Africanus

c. 240

5501



2

George Syncellus

c. 810

5492



3

John Jackson

1752

5426



4

Dr William Hales

c. 1830

5411



5

Eusebius

c. 330

5199



6

Marianus Scotus

c. 1070

4192



7

L. Condomanus

n/a

4141



8

Thomas Lydiat

c. 1600

4103



9

M. Michael Maestlinus

c. 1600

4079



10

J. Ricciolus

n/a

4062



11

Jacob Salianus

c. 1600

4053



12

H. Spondanus

c. 1600

4051



13

Martin Anstey

1913

4042



14

W. Lange

n/a

4041



15

E. Reinholt

n/a

4021



16

J. Cappellus

c. 1600

4005



17

E. Greswell

1830

4004



18

E. Faulstich

1986

4001



19

D. Petavius

c. 1627

3983



20

Frank Klassen

1975

3975



21

Becke

n/a

3974



22

Krentzeim

n/a

3971



23

W. Dolen

2003

3971



24

E. Reusnerus

n/a

3970



25

J. Claverius

n/a

3968



26

C. Longomontanus

c. 1600

3966



27

P. Melanchthon

c. 1550

3964



28

J. Haynlinus

n/a

3963



29

A. Salmeron

d. 1585

3958



30

J. Scaliger

d. 1609

3949



31

M. Beroaldus

c. 1575

3927



32

A. Helwigius

c. 1630

3836


As you will likely note from table 2, the dates are not all 4004 B.C. There are several reasons chronologists have different dates,7 but two primary reasons:
1. Some used the Septuagint or another early translation instead of the Hebrew Masoretic text. The Septuagint is a Greek translation of the Hebrew Old Testament, done about 250 B.C. by about 70 Jewish scholars (hence it is often cited as the LXX, which is the Roman numeral for 70). It is good in most places, but appears to have a number of inaccuracies. For example, one relates to the Genesis chronologies where the LXX indicates that Methuselah would have lived past the Flood, without being on the ark!
2. Several points in the biblical time-line are not straightforward to calculate. They require very careful study of more than one passage. These include exactly how much time the Israelites were in Egypt and what Terah’s age was when Abraham was born. (See Jones’s and Ussher’s books for a detailed discussion of these difficulties.)

The first four in table 2 (bolded) are calculated from the Septuagint, which gives ages for the patriarchs’ firstborn much higher than the Masoretic text or the Samarian Pentateuch (a version of the Old Testament from the Jews in Samaria just before Christ). Because of this, the Septuagint adds in extra time. Though the Samarian and Masoretic texts are much closer, they still have a few differences. See table 3.8

Using data from table 2 (excluding the Septuagint calculations and including Jones and Ussher), the average date of the creation of the earth is 4045 B.C. This still yields an average of about 6,000 years for the age of the earth.


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Re: Tax-exempt Obama Foundation doesn’t exist at listed addresses
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2013, 10:21:33 AM »
And this has to do w OB' s fake charity how?

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Re: Tax-exempt Obama Foundation doesn’t exist at listed addresses
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2013, 10:24:08 AM »
And this has to do w OB' s fake charity how?

sorry ,i thought your post were just to laugh at.are you telling us they're not just a joke

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Re: Tax-exempt Obama Foundation doesn’t exist at listed addresses
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2013, 10:25:50 AM »
Simply put, it came from the Bible. Of course, the Bible doesn’t say explicitly anywhere, “The earth is 6,000 years old.” Good thing it doesn’t; otherwise it would be out of date the following year. But we wouldn’t expect an all-knowing God to make that kind of a mistake.



HAHAHAHAHAH!!

Words of man.  There are biblical teachers who spout of that number, but the fact is that no where in the Bible does it mention it, NOR DOES IT IMPLY IT.

Terrible cut and paste job but YOU LOSE. Again. I want to see a book, chapter and verse where it says it, otherwise your just trolling.





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Re: Tax-exempt Obama Foundation doesn’t exist at listed addresses
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2013, 10:27:56 AM »
Now that I have shown Blacke to be a dumb atheist, maybe he can answer my questions.

Why do you still support the clown in chief? What has he done to even earn your man love? 

And to return to the topic, why that tax-exempt foundation doesn't exist at the listed address?

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Re: Tax-exempt Obama Foundation doesn’t exist at listed addresses
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2013, 10:30:44 AM »
HAHAHAHAHAH!!

Words of man.  There are biblical teachers who spout of that number, but the fact is that no where in the Bible does it mention it, NOR DOES IT IMPLY IT.

Terrible cut and paste job but YOU LOSE. Again. I want to see a book, chapter and verse where it says it, otherwise your just trolling.










boy you are fucking dumb,unless you don't believe in math  :D :D :D :D :D which wouldn't surprise me.tell us about the diet of that 800 year old man  :D :D :D :D :D doesn't believe in math but believes in 800 year old men        priceless :D        the stupid party strong and well

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Re: Tax-exempt Obama Foundation doesn’t exist at listed addresses
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2013, 10:44:28 AM »
boy you are fucking dumb,unless you don't believe in math  :D :D :D :D :D which wouldn't surprise me.tell us about the diet of that 800 year old man  :D :D :D :D :D doesn't believe in math but believes in 800 year old men        priceless :D        the stupid party strong and well

Simple question. How many years does the bible say passed between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:3?

Answer that and you win this argument.

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Re: Tax-exempt Obama Foundation doesn’t exist at listed addresses
« Reply #32 on: May 21, 2013, 10:45:34 AM »
How about we stick to OB's fake charity? 

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Re: Tax-exempt Obama Foundation doesn’t exist at listed addresses
« Reply #33 on: May 21, 2013, 10:47:05 AM »
How about we stick to OB's fake charity? 

True. Sorry, 3333. I will ignore the libtard from now on.

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Re: Tax-exempt Obama Foundation doesn’t exist at listed addresses
« Reply #34 on: May 21, 2013, 10:53:58 AM »
Simple question. How many years does the bible say passed between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:3?

Answer that and you win this argument.

don't read the bible you tell me,according to math the earth is about 6000 years old,that's if you believe in math