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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2013, 07:34:16 PM »
Guns are illegal in NYC, only the bad guys have them. 

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2013, 07:35:18 PM »
Guns are illegal in NYC, only the bad guys have them. 

New Fag City. 

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #27 on: October 21, 2013, 12:46:34 AM »
and that ladies and gents is why you should have a concealed carry permit

According the page http://gunssavelives.net/category/self-defense/ there has been 988 recorded incident at this year, where citizen has defend himself succesfully with the gun. Only 20% of those cases has end the death of the criminal, about 35% has some kind of wounds, and in 10% the defending party has some wounds. IMHO that is quite good record there. That means there have been 99 cases per month, and that seem to be little compared the amount of criminal attacks per month. What I also see there is lack of practice, because if you have a self defence gun, you should know how to use it. I mean there is hefty amount shots missed, only 20% of criminals are dead. Add some practice, and there will be 60% of criminals dead, and that is much better. Something like obligatory monthly practice among that concealed carry license, and that take care of it.

That is something I would like to see in Finland, because in country small as this it would make big difference. When Estonia got its independency, they write a law which gives the citizens right to apply for permission to self defence weapon, and by doing that, they get 54% drop of homicides, 70% drop in car thefts etc. In Finland we have less criminals and crime, so impact would be at least as strong as in the Estonia. Instead of that, they are planning gun ban for this country, and even it has not been done yet, there is strong anti gun movement which has strong support from the police forces. They have gone so far that they have imposed the doctors to denounce the persons, who may be some kind of risk if they own any weapons..

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #28 on: October 21, 2013, 01:24:50 AM »
According the page http://gunssavelives.net/category/self-defense/ there has been 988 recorded incident at this year, where citizen has defend himself succesfully with the gun. Only 20% of those cases has end the death of the criminal, about 35% has some kind of wounds, and in 10% the defending party has some wounds. IMHO that is quite good record there. That means there have been 99 cases per month, and that seem to be little compared the amount of criminal attacks per month. What I also see there is lack of practice, because if you have a self defence gun, you should know how to use it. I mean there is hefty amount shots missed, only 20% of criminals are dead. Add some practice, and there will be 60% of criminals dead, and that is much better. Something like obligatory monthly practice among that concealed carry license, and that take care of it.

That is something I would like to see in Finland, because in country small as this it would make big difference. When Estonia got its independency, they write a law which gives the citizens right to apply for permission to self defence weapon, and by doing that, they get 54% drop of homicides, 70% drop in car thefts etc. In Finland we have less criminals and crime, so impact would be at least as strong as in the Estonia. Instead of that, they are planning gun ban for this country, and even it has not been done yet, there is strong anti gun movement which has strong support from the police forces. They have gone so far that they have imposed the doctors to denounce the persons, who may be some kind of risk if they own any weapons..

Interesting post!!  8)

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2013, 01:50:02 AM »
I'm glad I live in texas not some crap hole in NY where it's illegal to carry

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #30 on: October 21, 2013, 02:33:25 AM »
According the page http://gunssavelives.net/category/self-defense/ there has been 988 recorded incident at this year, where citizen has defend himself succesfully with the gun. Only 20% of those cases has end the death of the criminal, about 35% has some kind of wounds, and in 10% the defending party has some wounds. IMHO that is quite good record there. That means there have been 99 cases per month, and that seem to be little compared the amount of criminal attacks per month. What I also see there is lack of practice, because if you have a self defence gun, you should know how to use it. I mean there is hefty amount shots missed, only 20% of criminals are dead. Add some practice, and there will be 60% of criminals dead, and that is much better. Something like obligatory monthly practice among that concealed carry license, and that take care of it.

That is something I would like to see in Finland, because in country small as this it would make big difference. When Estonia got its independency, they write a law which gives the citizens right to apply for permission to self defence weapon, and by doing that, they get 54% drop of homicides, 70% drop in car thefts etc. In Finland we have less criminals and crime, so impact would be at least as strong as in the Estonia. Instead of that, they are planning gun ban for this country, and even it has not been done yet, there is strong anti gun movement which has strong support from the police forces. They have gone so far that they have imposed the doctors to denounce the persons, who may be some kind of risk if they own any weapons..


I fully agree with mandatory training for gun owners, but that does not guarantee better accuracy in defense situations. The added stress of a life-threatening confrontation adds a whole different challenge than one faces on a firing range.

Even daily target practice cannot fully prepare you for reacting in a life-or-death situation.

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #31 on: October 21, 2013, 05:15:24 AM »
The honky should not have honked
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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #32 on: October 21, 2013, 05:18:42 AM »
But they're mislead youth of course  ::)

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #33 on: October 21, 2013, 05:30:20 AM »
his surname is Russo so therefore he's an eyetalian-american, maybe he's related to gay4it ???

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #34 on: October 21, 2013, 05:41:48 AM »
Damn chimps at it again.

People can't even drive around safely with their family

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #35 on: October 21, 2013, 05:42:18 AM »
Italians have always had more racial tension with people of color than white folk (not counting the slavery thing).

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #36 on: October 21, 2013, 05:46:56 AM »
 

What's that mean?  It means white and black people should STOP arguing about racial motivation here, and UNITE on the right to carry concealed weapon.  Every discussion about "it's all about race, race riots are coming, oh my, let's freak out" is a discussion we're NOT having about gun permits.


The arguing will never end as long as a law is used to disparage only one race.

Either get rid of the hate crime laws or use it fairly by not applying it solely when a white kills a black or hispanic.

The media doesn't help either when it sensationalizes a black dying at the hands of a white but they won't report with the same zeal if it's a black on black crime or a black killing a white.

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #37 on: October 21, 2013, 05:53:11 AM »
The arguing will never end as long as a law is used to disparage only one race.

Either get rid of the hate crime laws or use it fairly by not applying it solely when a white kills a black or hispanic.

The media doesn't help either when it sensationalizes a black dying at the hands of a white but they won't report with the same zeal if it's a black on black crime or a black killing a white.

Very true. 
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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #38 on: October 21, 2013, 06:49:37 AM »
Just another example of the liberal utopian ideal- 'gun free zones' filled with diversity and poverty. A winning combination!

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #39 on: October 21, 2013, 08:35:04 AM »
Italians have always had more racial tension with people of color than white folk (not counting the slavery thing).

Cannot disagree with this.  If those fucking eggplants would just abide by societies rules like actual human beings we would have no issues.  Mud people are not people exactly.

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #40 on: October 21, 2013, 09:02:03 AM »
Cannot disagree with this.  If those fucking eggplants would just abide by societies rules like actual human beings we would have no issues.  Mud people are not people exactly.

what are they then

is there anyone you dont hate
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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #41 on: October 21, 2013, 09:20:48 AM »
what are they then

is there anyone you dont hate

Yeah, I don't hate my own race, unlike most brainwashed Americans who believe that whites are the cause of all the world's problems.  I will never apologize for loving my own race and only them.  No one else matters to me and why the fuck should they?  Telling me I am what is wrong with the world and hating me because of MY race.  Isn't that what a racist is?  At least I am unapologetic and proclaim that yes I am a RACIST - I love my own race and no others. 

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #42 on: October 21, 2013, 09:27:24 AM »
Italians have always had more racial tension with people of color than white folk (not counting the slavery thing).

Stop watching Spike Lee movies.....they aren't real.

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #43 on: October 22, 2013, 11:59:38 PM »

I fully agree with mandatory training for gun owners, but that does not guarantee better accuracy in defense situations. The added stress of a life-threatening confrontation adds a whole different challenge than one faces on a firing range.

Even daily target practice cannot fully prepare you for reacting in a life-or-death situation.

Well, if you think little further, you realize that there is many kinds of shooting practice available in USA. There is ways to teach people to get over the fear and the stress of the situation, and that kind of training would be just right for CCW owners. Furthermore,  as deeper in muscle memory you are able to install your actions by practice, as better you are able to react in intense situations.

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #44 on: October 23, 2013, 01:08:32 AM »
Sure a gun will work but unless it's all on video, it will complicate the issue. However, having a baseball bat or golf club by your side may make things a lot easier to explain...I'd also offer that a bat or golf club could do a lot more damage(visually) than a gun...

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #45 on: October 23, 2013, 01:12:23 AM »
Guns are illegal in NYC, only the bad guys have them.  

But sling bladeslawn mower blades aren't ;)
 

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #46 on: October 23, 2013, 06:59:24 AM »
According the page http://gunssavelives.net/category/self-defense/ there has been 988 recorded incident at this year, where citizen has defend himself succesfully with the gun. Only 20% of those cases has end the death of the criminal, about 35% has some kind of wounds, and in 10% the defending party has some wounds. IMHO that is quite good record there. That means there have been 99 cases per month, and that seem to be little compared the amount of criminal attacks per month. What I also see there is lack of practice, because if you have a self defence gun, you should know how to use it. I mean there is hefty amount shots missed, only 20% of criminals are dead. Add some practice, and there will be 60% of criminals dead, and that is much better. Something like obligatory monthly practice among that concealed carry license, and that take care of it.

That is something I would like to see in Finland, because in country small as this it would make big difference. When Estonia got its independency, they write a law which gives the citizens right to apply for permission to self defence weapon, and by doing that, they get 54% drop of homicides, 70% drop in car thefts etc. In Finland we have less criminals and crime, so impact would be at least as strong as in the Estonia. Instead of that, they are planning gun ban for this country, and even it has not been done yet, there is strong anti gun movement which has strong support from the police forces. They have gone so far that they have imposed the doctors to denounce the persons, who may be some kind of risk if they own any weapons..

Welcome to Jew York State.  The Peoples Republic of Jew York, to be precise.  The SAFE ACT here allows and ENCOURAGES this and worse!!  You get a REWARD for turning in someone you suspect has an "illegal weapon".  Mind you, this means outright bought on the black market guns and guns that have a feature that is considered "illegal" - like a retractable stock, flash suppressor, and my favorite MORE THAN 7 ROUNDS IN THE MAGAZINE!!  Who the fuck came up with that brilliant crime deterrent?  7 rounds really?!!  Anyways, I agree 100%, wherever you have armed legal citizens CRIME GOES DOWN!!!  Period.  Take away guns from citizens, criminals are now the only ones who have them.  and by criminals I am including cops  :P 

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Re: Group of youths blocks couple's car, bloody victims in attack
« Reply #47 on: October 23, 2013, 06:01:50 PM »
But sling bladeslawn mower blades aren't ;)
 


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