First time PH user needing advice.

[Everhard]

I posted this same question over at another board because I am trying to get the most information possible.

bodybuilding shows, one was for NGA and the other two were OCB. I work with a nutritionist so my diet is pretty much always good, and I am 39.

 I think now is a time for a change. I feel my body is still responding but it just seems the gains have slowed down so much. Friend of mine used Super DMZ 2.0 and he responded greatly and he never has a good diet. I am looking at this.....

 First 4 weeks
 Anabolic matrix rx- 2 a day
 Advanced Cycle support 2 a day
 Multi-Vitamin- 3 a day
 1000mg Fish Oil- 4 a day
 Liver support- 2 a day
 Iron- 1 a day
 Magnesium- 1 a day
 Super Dmz- 2 a day


 Last 4 weeks
 Anabolic matrix rx- 2 a day
 Advanced Cycle support 2 a day
 Multi-Vitamin- 3 a day
 1000mg Fish Oil- 4 a day
 Liver support- 2 a day
 Iron- 1 a day
 Magnesium- 1 a day

 Liquid Clomid- 100/50/50/50

 My questions are should I be using Formeron in place of any of the above. I have read some use it for the entire eight week cycle. Also, with the above mentioned do I need all of that? I got the recommendation from a sticky at iron labs, and I just want to make sure if I need it all or iron labs may just be adding stuff in that you really do not need. What about E-control, should I use it also.

 My main worries are of course gyno and hair loss. Even though I am already basically bald  If any of this is wrong than just recommend me something else, because I greatly appreciate all the advice. Some may say why not just use some Test-E, well it is easier for me to get some Super DMZ than it is test. Thanks guys.

I had someone tell me not to do it because of my age. Holy shit, if you think 39 is old you are crazy. I do more and in better shape than I was at 29.

[dustin]

Delete this thread and start a new one about injectables. You're wasting your time with that garbage. Stop reading shit on bodybuilding.com.

Hope this helps.

[oni]

I posted this same question over at another board because I am trying to get the most information possible.

bodybuilding shows, one was for NGA and the other two were OCB. I work with a nutritionist so my diet is pretty much always good, and I am 39.

 I think now is a time for a change. I feel my body is still responding but it just seems the gains have slowed down so much. Friend of mine used Super DMZ 2.0 and he responded greatly and he never has a good diet. I am looking at this.....

 First 4 weeks
 Anabolic matrix rx- 2 a day
 Advanced Cycle support 2 a day
 Multi-Vitamin- 3 a day
 1000mg Fish Oil- 4 a day
 Liver support- 2 a day
 Iron- 1 a day
 Magnesium- 1 a day
 Super Dmz- 2 a day


 Last 4 weeks
 Anabolic matrix rx- 2 a day
 Advanced Cycle support 2 a day
 Multi-Vitamin- 3 a day
 1000mg Fish Oil- 4 a day
 Liver support- 2 a day
 Iron- 1 a day
 Magnesium- 1 a day

 Liquid Clomid- 100/50/50/50

 My questions are should I be using Formeron in place of any of the above. I have read some use it for the entire eight week cycle. Also, with the above mentioned do I need all of that? I got the recommendation from a sticky at iron labs, and I just want to make sure if I need it all or iron labs may just be adding stuff in that you really do not need. What about E-control, should I use it also.

 My main worries are of course gyno and hair loss. Even though I am already basically bald  If any of this is wrong than just recommend me something else, because I greatly appreciate all the advice. Some may say why not just use some Test-E, well it is easier for me to get some Super DMZ than it is test. Thanks guys.

I had someone tell me not to do it because of my age. Holy shit, if you think 39 is old you are crazy. I do more and in better shape than I was at 29.

lol I googled what you posted and found this
http://anabolicminds.com/forum/steroids/239350-time-change-first.html

5'8 160lb and 12%? Just pin a cc of test and get your diet under control
All this shit you're running alongside it, anabolic matrix arr exx? That trib is going to do so much for you bro, lol. $40? That's 10 weeks of test for you by removing this shit. Advanced cycle support? Only useful ingredient is N-Acetylcysteine and that costs me $25 for 250g and you're paying $40 for 25g lol. Looks like I saved you another bottle of test right there. 3, 1-a-day multivitamins? Dunno why you even listed this. Good diet is all you need. Red meat has every nutrient you need but you'll want 5g of fish oil if you don't get grass fed. Dunno what these even cost, probably another $20 a month at best. Liver support? That's exactly the same shit that's in the on cycle support. If you get the same brand as that other shit you have yourself some arimidex. Iron? lol eat a steak.

Sorry that no-one on anabolicminds gave you the info you needed to justify this crap

[tstmaniac]

Delete this thread and start a new one about injectables. You're wasting your time with that garbage. Stop reading shit on bodybuilding.com.

Hope this helps.

Agree...use real steroids... Much better for your health As well..

[whitewidow]

I think DMZ is more of a designer steroid instead of a prohormone. This member can post this question here. I have heard from members who have used almost all oral steroids on the market this fairly new DMZ product is good shit and all of them have been happy with the gains. People dissed on M1T and superdrol when those products came out but both ended up being very potent oral steroids yet members who have never heard of them just called them pussy prohormones obviously was not true as superdrol and M1T are very strong/potent oral steroids. A user can still make great gains off these products.

 Bostin lloyds first cycle was superdrol only and he said he made insane gains off it. I think all cycles should be based with a injectable such as Testosterone but my first cycle was a oral only cycle and so were alot of guys. No reason to give a member a hard time for using a oral only cycle or using a designer hormone. This DMZ product has great feedback from guys who use alot of juice and tried alot of the mandatory old school oral steroids. I think they would get better assitance posting a thread like this on bodybuilding.com or anabolicminds but they are free to post it up here if they feel like it because I know members on here who have used this product wether they want to admit it or not and help that is up to them.