Alexander Overeem

[the trainer]

I think overeem should go fight in japan cause they dont test for steroids over there so he could go back into beast mode and kick some ass.

[Hulkotron]

no its "all lies stare over him" referrring to his denying of steroids

Okay but in general a short man will be savagely beaten by a taller man

[_bruce_]

Overeem should take Alphaville's advice...

[Mrdibbs]

i guess u can look at that in a positive for cain tho that he never had to fight a fight where he was down on the rds and make a comeback,cain was injured in the first fight against dossantos, reason i believe him is because cain destroyed dos santos in the 2nd and 3rd fight without it even being close. everyone always said chuck had a great jaw n he got clocked by franklin n he was out cold,same with rashad,he clocked chuck n knocked him out cold, point is if u get hit good enough it dont matter who u r u wont b able to bounce back n recover.even anderson silva couldnt fight back against chris weidman in the first fight when he got caught on the chin,anderson was out when he hit the ground. randy and vitor who r known for their fighting spirit both been knocked out cold in their careers, no chance to fight back out cold. all im saying is it can happen to anybody

You're absolutely right, out cold you can't do jack shit. Can happen to any fighter (look at pacquiao).

It's the reacting to being rocked and wobbled is what makes me doubt Cain. Maybe he knew he wasn't going to do more with his injury and that's why it seemd he gave up. Well'' see sooner or later.

[oldtimer1]

Overeem's time has come and gone. Nobody wants to see him fight anymore. He is done.

[tommywishbone]

I don't know, Velasquez has been in there with some big big hitters.  It helps if you can avoid getting hit hard, which he does well.  And Dos Santos could knock almost anyone out if he lands a good shot, regardless of how good their chin was.

And Velasquez was not knocked out by JDS. It was a huge overhand right from JDS that landed above CV's left ear.  I watch Valasquez train often and have spoken with him many times. He said he was wide awake and aware of everything that was happening after JDS hit him but his equilibrium was totally wrecked and he couldn't tell left from right or up from down.  Velasquez has a chin.