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Re: Manual labor assistance needed the build stenth in mind and body ELECTRICAL
« Reply #25 on: September 25, 2014, 09:19:52 PM »
i masterd plumbing on my first try i had to ask around here how to properly ground it since all these old houses ground to the water line from the shower (that never felt right so instead i drove the ground wire into the ground with a rod). plumbing was a sinch did the whole house top to bottom took some time though

ill be doing more electrical im taking on bigger projects hiring people on occasion to do some of the simple minded labor, while i do the details and learning as i go along about the electrical side of things

Yes, the best way to establish a good ground is by driving rods deep into the ground. We recently replaced our main panel. Code required two ground rods. I didn't do this work myself, I had it done, although I have replaced everything from the meter out in a previous house remodel. That house was built in 1910 and still had knob and tube wiring in places, which I replaced with Romex  These days, I hire out this work.

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Re: Manual labor assistance needed the build stenth in mind and body ELECTRICAL
« Reply #26 on: September 26, 2014, 07:26:51 AM »
Fuck.  If that meddling kid Prime hadn't been snooping around I would have gotten away with falcon owing me a favor.  :(

Yeah, I was gonna guess no ground wire.  I think they wire outlets in series (as opposed to in parallel).  That means if one shits out then all the ones after it in the series also don't work, so the problem you're chasing could be further upstream than the non-functioning outlet you've got there.  Or maybe downstream.  If one fails anywhere maybe the whole circut is kaput.  I think.

They call 'em active & neutral here, active being brown & neutral being blue.  I think.  Perhaps there will be some notation on the can that indicates which is which.  These are 1/3 of the 3 phase power transmission of Nikola Tesla fame.  In your 110v country they'll use 2 of the 3 phases on big draw items like hardwired stoves, so it goes A to A rather than A to N which gives 220v.  Or something like that.  I think.  Idk, wear rubber gloves.

I totally fixed a honda gx motor the other day.  Tuned my 2 stroke weedeater last night.  Bought an old ass diesel at auction for pennies to take apart and see what's what with those.  I'm proud to follow in the gigantic footsteps of Champion Falcon.

Now if you'll excuse me I have to somehow extract a Lincoln Ranger 405D welder/generator (1&3 phase!) from my van without getting trapped under it.  If I'm not back soon send help.

i have no clue yet of what the "phase 1, 2, 3" jargon means, i must learn this IMMEDIATLEY, you should really explain that to me now, i need to learn by tonite at the very least i will study right after im finished today full concentration while drinking kale, blue berries from my ninja blender

yes i hear deisel motors work in the opposite direction of conventional motors, a mechanic told me he would prefer to buy a deisel truck


i am off to get my non contact voltage tester and see if i cant get some power to some new outlets

you are correct a series of outlets in this house im working at are out like 3 or 4 in a row are completley out, ill keep you posted if the new outlets work or not!!!
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Re: Manual labor assistance needed the build stenth in mind and body ELECTRICAL
« Reply #27 on: September 26, 2014, 07:32:46 AM »
Prime laying down some good knowledges. Good lad.  :)

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Re: Manual labor assistance needed the build stenth in mind and body ELECTRICAL
« Reply #28 on: September 26, 2014, 08:13:15 AM »
i have no clue yet of what the "phase 1, 2, 3" jargon means, i must learn this IMMEDIATLEY, you should really explain that to me now, i need to learn by tonite at the very least i will study right after im finished today full concentration while drinking kale, blue berries from my ninja blender

yes i hear deisel motors work in the opposite direction of conventional motors, a mechanic told me he would prefer to buy a deisel truck


i am off to get my non contact voltage tester and see if i cant get some power to some new outlets

you are correct a series of outlets in this house im working at are out like 3 or 4 in a row are completley out, ill keep you posted if the new outlets work or not!!!

Yep in prep for my diesel experimentations I Youtubed.  Apparently there's this thing called 'runaway dieseling' which looks like a lot of fun.  Things are bound to go well.

I think the 3 phase thing is basically 3 wires carrying a single phase each?  I think of it like a high pressure water pump.  The good pressure washers are triplex pumps, so they have 3 pistons that push water 1/3 out of phase with the others.  Just like electricity the water flow volume is a sine wave (the linear translation of the piston driven by a rotating crankshaft).  If you overlay 3 sine waves 1/3 out of phase with one another you get a pretty smooth flow with no big dead spots, whereas if you just had one piston pushing pressure water it would be more like blowing monster loads.  I theorize this is why 3 phase motors are regarded as more efficient and generate more power per pound then single phase because there's no big gaps in the electricity supplying them so they don't need a big flywheel?  

The wye and delta connection for motors uses a neutral or not, respectfully.  You get different volts and so different heat generation so if you do it wrong you overheat the motor and all the rubber around the wire melts.  (Never buy a PVC rubber hose for any kind of pressurized use if it's going to get warm btw, PVC plastic loses strength real quick with heat.)  This kills the motor.  I don't want to do that to my 1943 lathe's original motor so I have to study and then when I fuck it up I won't have to feel like I didn't try hard enough not to fuck it up.

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Re: Manual labor assistance needed the build stenth in mind and body ELECTRICAL
« Reply #29 on: September 26, 2014, 08:31:26 AM »
Yep in prep for my diesel experimentations I Youtubed.  Apparently there's this thing called 'runaway dieseling' which looks like a lot of fun.  Things are bound to go well.

I think the 3 phase thing is basically 3 wires carrying a single phase each?  I think of it like a high pressure water pump.  The good pressure washers are triplex pumps, so they have 3 pistons that push water 1/3 out of phase with the others.  Just like electricity the water flow volume is a sine wave (the linear translation of the piston driven by a rotating crankshaft).  If you overlay 3 sine waves 1/3 out of phase with one another you get a pretty smooth flow with no big dead spots, whereas if you just had one piston pushing pressure water it would be more like blowing monster loads.  I theorize this is why 3 phase motors are regarded as more efficient and generate more power per pound then single phase because there's no big gaps in the electricity supplying them so they don't need a big flywheel?  

The wye and delta connection for motors uses a neutral or not, respectfully.  You get different volts and so different heat generation so if you do it wrong you overheat the motor and all the rubber around the wire melts.  (Never buy a PVC rubber hose for any kind of pressurized use if it's going to get warm btw, PVC plastic loses strength real quick with heat.)  This kills the motor.  I don't want to do that to my 1943 lathe's original motor so I have to study and then when I fuck it up I won't have to feel like I didn't try hard enough not to fuck it up.
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Re: Manual labor assistance needed the build stenth in mind and body ELECTRICAL
« Reply #30 on: September 26, 2014, 08:49:42 AM »
Check out the big brain on Brad.         ;D

Seems you didn't catch the satellite show of me tugging a 600kg generator out of a van with a garage sale acquired engine hoist, 3 chain blocks, umpteen straps, two pallets, 2x4s, bricks, blocks, a sledge hammer, and big assed tree.  What a show. 

I'll figure out how to untrap the hoist from under it in the morning.  It'll be fine.

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Re: Manual labor assistance needed the build stenth in mind and body ELECTRICAL
« Reply #31 on: September 26, 2014, 10:31:23 AM »
In the U.S. we use a split phase electricity distribution system that's a 3-wire single-phase distribution system for single-family residential and light commercial wiring. This allows the home to have 220V outlets by simply supplying hot lines from two adjacent breakers. In some places in North America it's 120V/240V instead of 110V/220V. Your outlet is 110V.

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Re: Manual labor assistance needed the build stenth in mind and body ELECTRICAL
« Reply #32 on: September 26, 2014, 11:26:59 AM »
Will watch those M.I.T. vids - good stuff.
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Re: Manual labor assistance needed the build stenth in mind and body ELECTRICAL
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2014, 11:45:31 AM »
Have you ever considered communicating better?
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Re: Manual labor assistance needed the build stenth in mind and body ELECTRICAL
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2014, 12:45:33 PM »
HIRE??  Medicare doesn't pay for that crazy!!! Lol. Marty can't hire anyone - but he just needs to get mo high and he be aw ight
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