Creativity is not improved through cannabis use, claims study

[devilsmile]

Smoking doesn't make you anything.

For example people who study drawing and painting can be considered creative and they can feel hundred times more creative when they smoke pot, but people who have no idea what to do with their life will not get any creativity from smoking, let me tell you that.

[The True Adonis]

Thats the thing, if it increased creativity, you would think millions of people would be creating great works of art. How many people who are weed smokers actually create great works of art? The famous artists that smoked weed and did create great works of art just happened to be weed smokers.

The best Artists never smoked anything and created things like The Sistine Chapel, artists like Fredric Edwin Church, Peder Monsted.  Beethoven didn`t need weed to write the 9th.  I love hearing the nonsense from the drug apologists.  

[The True Adonis]

Thats the thing, if it increased creativity, you would think millions of people would be creating great works of art. How many people who are weed smokers actually create great works of art? The famous artists that smoked weed and did create great works of art just happened to be weed smokers.

Fine Art by Wiggs

[The Abdominal Snoman]

Weed making people creative? Doubtful...LSD and mushrooms? Probable...

[thebrink]

Smoking doesn't make you anything.

For example people who study drawing and painting can be considered creative and they can feel hundred times more creative when they smoke pot, but people who have no idea what to do with their life will not get any creativity from smoking, let me tell you that.

exactly

[Necrosis]

The best Artists never smoked anything and created things like The Sistine Chapel, artists like Fredric Edwin Church, Peder Monsted.  Beethoven didn`t need weed to write the 9th.  I love hearing the nonsense from the drug apologists.  

Many artists have been linked to drug use, vincent VG, jackson pollack all kinds of things, creative people are often driven to the brink from the need to create. I think the dichotomy you have created is false. Anything that increase dopaminergic tone with improve creativity. We are machines nothing more.

[Big Chiro Flex]

I would ask that everyone of you phaggots please lower your tone when addressing Hulkotron. He is a research scientist by trade and knows more about statisticles and bell curves and what not than any of you homos.

Thanks.

[Ronnie Rep]

Some people believe that smoking cannabis boosts creativity. But a new study by researchers from Leiden University in the Netherlands claims this is not the case; smoking cannabis may even hinder creativity.

Researchers claim the belief that smoking cannabis improves creativity "is an illusion."

The research team, including Lorenza Colzato of the Cognitive Psychology Unit at the Institute of Psychology at Leiden University and the Leiden Institute for Brain and Cognition, recently published their findings in the journal Psychopharmacology.

Cannabis, or marijuana, is the most commonly used illicit drug in the US. According to a 2012 report from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), 7.3% of individuals aged 12 and over had used cannabis in the past month.

They obviously were not high when they did the study.

[SF1900]

Many artists have been linked to drug use, vincent VG, jackson pollack all kinds of things, creative people are often driven to the brink from the need to create. I think the dichotomy you have created is false. Anything that increase dopaminergic tone with improve creativity. We are machines nothing more.

The issue is that those artists (vincent VF, pollack) were great artists who just happen to be drug users. It's purely correlation. I have a suspicion that they would still be great artists without the drugs.

If youre assertion that drug use is linked to creativity, then why arent millions and millions of people creating great works of art? You cant pick two artists and say, "Well, their creativity is linked to their drug use." Doesn't work that way.

[ProudVirgin69]

I wouldn't say it "makes" you creative, but it can help you to see things in a different way.

Any drug can let you approach things from a different perspective from when you are sober.... some times, that can lead to some useful insight.

[The True Adonis]

Many artists have been linked to drug use, vincent VG, jackson pollack all kinds of things, creative people are often driven to the brink from the need to create. I think the dichotomy you have created is false. Anything that increase dopaminergic tone with improve creativity. We are machines nothing more.

No we aren`t.

[OneMoreRep]

I know people here probably discount me....

I don't. You're one of the good guys.

"1"

[SF1900]

I don't. You're one of the good guys.

"1"

It has nothing to do with discounting.

It's what you can and cannot prove through scientific inquiry.

[Necrosis]

The issue is that those artists (vincent VF, pollack) were great artists who just happen to be drug users. It's purely correlation. I have a suspicion that they would still be great artists without the drugs.

If youre assertion that drug use is linked to creativity, then why arent millions and millions of people creating great works of art? You cant pick two artists and say, "Well, their creativity is linked to their drug use." Doesn't work that way.

And vice versa, maybe the others would have been better with drugs.

Also, quite the spurious correlation there, I mean great works of art are how we are measuring creativity? those people are poor examples all around, I simply used them because TA did, they are extraordinary people, basing anything off them would be a poor choice imo.

My assertion is that specific drugs are linked to higher creativity as they alter perception. Hallucinogens specifically, also, creativity is kinda hard to define as it is a nebulous idea, is it simply creation of novel ideas?

[dr.chimps]

Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

[Necrosis]

No we aren`t.

we are organic rube goldberg machines. Of course we literally aren't however we behave very similarly. For example our body runs by itself mostly (hardware) and our software handles the higher order stuff. Neil Bostrom is right

[WillGrant]

[gracie bjj]

It's not an illusion. Listen to music when stoned and you will hear parts you've never heard or appreciated before. When listening to same song sober you can still hear same bits undiscovered without the THC.

agreed 100%,problem is only us guys who actually experianced that wont believe it,they will believe some scientist instead who prolly never smoked a joint in his life saying its not true. same with food,eat a nice meal an hour after u got stoned and ill guarantee anyone they enjoy it more than they ever did.i dont care what science says cause i know what i know from doing it

[The True Adonis]

we are organic rube goldberg machines. Of course we literally aren't however we behave very similarly. For example our body runs by itself mostly (hardware) and our software handles the higher order stuff. Neil Bostrom is right

Stephen Pinker is right.