mike ashley and brian buchanon

[theworm]

Yeah, Shawn needs more recent pics for the ad campaign of Vyotec.  Think about it, a NEW supplement with pics of a BB that are 5-6 years OLD.  Do you think the average consumer thinks about that?  Like "man, I can look like that if I take vyotec," when the picture is of someone who has not used it (b/c the pic is from before the stuff was invented)  Shawn needs to train with the stuff and put up new pics,,,,would sell more...maybe.

[Matt]

Yeah, Shawn needs more recent pics for the ad campaign of Vyotec.  Think about it, a NEW supplement with pics of a BB that are 5-6 years OLD.  Do you think the average consumer thinks about that?  Like "man, I can look like that if I take vyotec," when the picture is of someone who has not used it (b/c the pic is from before the stuff was invented)  Shawn needs to train with the stuff and put up new pics,,,,would sell more...maybe.

I think the advertisers are banking on people not know that the pics of Shawn are old.  Newbies spend the most on these exotic hyped up supps anyway.

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[cqfd]

This pro I'm talking about placed very low in the 1988 Mr O . which Is amazing considering he Is 100 percent natural and no one has ever doubted or protested it. He competed at about 185 lbs. Thats a far as ill go with that. So there is your answer for a Fact !!!! Mike Ashley was a lier.

Are you talking about paul-jean guillaume?

[HowieW]

Mike didn't have a say in the Results of the Drug test?
Mike Christian passed the Test too and he NEVER claimed to be natural and had inside info regarding passing the test I later learned after he stopped competing.
Now when you associate Balco, Victor Conte and Ashley together prior to the Arnold, you have to ask yourself............Why would Mike lie about being Natural?
Why would he Not pass a Drug test?
Things that make you go.............Hhhhhhhhh hhmmmmmmmmmm
The light shines in Dark places eentually the truth comes out.

I feel that Mike was pretty much drug free , at least for most of his career, hard to be sure when he was a pro, bottom line is this (again). The IFBB drug testing program was hit or miss when they tried it and met with lukewarm , inconsistent results. Mike left the sport and never climbed the o ladder, as did YOU Mr Ray, what else really matters anyway.
Howard