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Re: Test Boosters? Pro-Hormones? or TRT?
« Reply #50 on: September 30, 2021, 04:15:25 PM »
Is this a doctor still in practice?

Can we get his name, phone number and address?

LOL! Maybe, but not in this life.

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Re: Test Boosters? Pro-Hormones? or TRT?
« Reply #51 on: September 30, 2021, 04:38:19 PM »
well i do plan on going to a actual doctor at a actual hospital to get my TEST levels checked.. This is the same doctor who has prescribed TRT to a acquaintance at my gym, whose 42 and been on it for a few years. Of course there are a few male vitality clinics nearby, the closest one charges 100 dollars for the whole TEST mark-up...Without knowing, I get the sense that these clinics are basically salespeople with needles?

a doctor at a hospital more legit?

speaking of getting your TEST levels checked, without knowing, do you need to have it done more than once to confirm the levels?

Not sure what labs only for test levels cost, but my urologists orders Hematocrit, PSA and Testosterone and the lab charges $158. which is discounted t $54. Insurance pays $44. and I pay $10. Your health insurance may or may not cover labs ordered by a 'vitality clinic' and the clinic may or may not accept you health insurance.

My doctor suggests getting the blood draw for the labs in the morning because test levels are higher. I am not a morning person so for me morning means early afternoon. They'll probably want to one set of labs prior to starting test to see if you even need it. If you do, the next labs would be before your next office visit which depends on how often your doctor wants to see you. I've had the same urologist for a couple of decades. At this point, I see him once a year. When I first started with him the visits were quarterly, because he wanted to monitor my PSA and testosterone closely.   

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Re: Test Boosters? Pro-Hormones? or TRT?
« Reply #52 on: September 30, 2021, 04:41:26 PM »
But time goes quicker when you are having fun

Best to be miserable, time lasts fucking ages.

I know you are kidding, but this doesn't make sense....why would you want to live a long time if you are miserable? Answer, you wouldn't. ;)

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« Reply #53 on: September 30, 2021, 04:49:14 PM »
Do you want legit or do you want testosterone? A legit doc will not give you test if you are in range and don't have tons of complaints that could be related to testosterone. A legit doctor is also supposed to order a brain scan to make sure you don't have a brain tumor causing low test. :D

Modern TRT isn't about being normal and correcting a pathology. It's about going beyond normal and accepting the risks that come with it.

I recently wrote about a professor endocrinologist here in Sweden who said TRT is almost always negative and not needed. Almost no one has pathologically low testosterone. You can't go by numbers, even if low you might have excellent response to that low test. He said most TRT patients may feel good initially, for a few weeks, but then feel like shit on testosterone therapy. They get no energy, no increase in sex drive, only side effects. Then when TRT fails they end up as his patients and he has to correct the mess the clinics caused. I feel like this is the type of Dr you are looking for, who will assure you test is not a solution for whatever it is you're looking for.

In any case TRT isn't very physiological even if in normal range. It won't be higher in the morning vs at night. Your test doesn't tank if you experience disappointment, stress, lose a tennis match or smell women's tears. Yes, the smell of women's tears tanks a normal man's test  :D

Many bodybuilders have a legit TRT script even if they cycle black market gear. The reason should be obvious. The script can come handy, for example if you need some gear with you when you travel, if you get sent to jail, you need to explain high test levels for whatever reason. I believe ESFitness said he was given his test shots even while in prison.

Maybe people who are looking for miracles feel like shit when they figure out they're not going to happen. I've been on TRT for several years and I feel fine. Like most people some days I feel better than others, but that has nothing to do with being on TRT....that's life.

My doctor and the lab he uses says test levels are higher in the morning assuming you sleep at night and not during the day.

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Re: Test Boosters? Pro-Hormones? or TRT?
« Reply #54 on: September 30, 2021, 05:22:20 PM »
Maybe people who are looking for miracles feel like shit when they figure out they're not going to happen. I've been on TRT for several years and I feel fine. Like most people some days I feel better than others, but that has nothing to do with being on TRT....that's life.

My doctor and the lab he uses says test levels are higher in the morning assuming you sleep at night and not during the day.

You don't have higher test in the morning, you have artificial test in you and are fully suppressed. All your test is artificial. That's why exogenous test would be advantageous for an athlete even if test was kept in the normal range, you don't get fluctuations. You don't get low test even if overtrained, sleep deprived, starving, extremely emotionally stressed or what have you.

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Re: Test Boosters? Pro-Hormones? or TRT?
« Reply #55 on: September 30, 2021, 05:31:28 PM »
Maybe people who are looking for miracles feel like shit when they figure out they're not going to happen. I've been on TRT for several years and I feel fine. Like most people some days I feel better than others, but that has nothing to do with being on TRT....that's life.

My doctor and the lab he uses says test levels are higher in the morning assuming you sleep at night and not during the day.

Are U gonna write a poem about yours doctor ............ ;D

Andy Ngo is touring EU & talking about ANTIFA in Portland ............... ;D

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« Reply #56 on: September 30, 2021, 06:01:30 PM »
Are U gonna write a poem about yours doctor ............ ;D

Andy Ngo is touring EU & talking about ANTIFA in Portland ............... ;D

That is Andy Ngo's one note samba. He needs to get on with his life.

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Re: Test Boosters? Pro-Hormones? or TRT?
« Reply #57 on: September 30, 2021, 06:09:46 PM »
That is Andy Ngo's one note samba. He needs to get on with his life.

Most of the media is on the side of Antifa. Why can't there be one instance of propaganda from the other side?

Jewish Antifa is disgusting.

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Re: Test Boosters? Pro-Hormones? or TRT?
« Reply #58 on: September 30, 2021, 06:24:53 PM »
Most of the media is on the side of Antifa. Why can't there be one instance of propaganda from the other side?

Jewish Antifa is disgusting.

TBH, I don't follow Antifa. I wouldn't know who Andy Ngo was if it weren't for someone mentioning him on Getbig. What the heck is Jewish Antifa? Never mind, it is probably just more negative shit that literally has no impact on my life.

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« Reply #59 on: September 30, 2021, 06:30:58 PM »
Have been on “enhanced TRT” with Deca for going on almost a decade now. Every single one of my health markers is within normal limits except for my BP which I treat with a water pill. I have blood work, EKGs, calcium score tests, etc. regularly. My primary care MD, who is at least 10 years younger, tells me he wishes he had my test scores. I am far from huge but it’s evident I lift and I feel amazing. Maybe I’ll drop dead tomorrow but I’m well insured and I wouldn’t do anything differently. The scare mongers on here all speak from zero personal experience and usually very little actual knowledge.

What are we talking about here, vaccines?

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Re: Test Boosters? Pro-Hormones? or TRT?
« Reply #60 on: September 30, 2021, 06:39:49 PM »
TBH, I don't follow Antifa. I wouldn't know who Andy Ngo was if it weren't for someone mentioning him on Getbig. What the heck is Jewish Antifa? Never mind, it is probably just more negative shit that literally has no impact on my life.

I call it Jewish because Jews claim Antifa as their invention. If you are gainst Antifa you are anti-Semitic they say.
For example, from Haaretz:

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Opinion: Trump's Attacks on Antifa Are Attacks on Jews
American Jews cannot support Trump's 'war' on anti-fascism and his camp's conspiracy theories about the 'hidden hand' behind legitimate protest and dissent

Or The Forward:

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The Yiddish roots of antifa – the anti-fascist movement whose precursors date back at least as far as opposition to the Russian czar – have been well documented. They are also enshrined in a canon of Yiddish antifa songs – songs of resistance, anarchism, revolution, and workers’ rights – that listeners might find eerily resonant and applicable to our present moment.

Yes this Ngo homo (as in he's homosexual though it doesn't protect him) is running propaganda and he's attacked for veiled racism, white supremacism, or what have you. But so what? There's a shit ton of pro-Antifa propaganda in the media so what's the problem with one guy covering the other side? Antifa literally want to kill him. Antifa are mentally ill junkies run by Jews against whites.