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Re: pullovers
« Reply #50 on: March 09, 2020, 07:09:25 AM »
I have actually been using the lying hamstring machine for pullovers.




Very interesting.Im usually very inventive with machines but never once thought about doing this.

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Re: pullovers
« Reply #51 on: March 09, 2020, 09:44:38 AM »
Very interesting.Im usually very inventive with machines but never once thought about doing this.

I might actually try this

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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #52 on: March 09, 2020, 09:54:08 AM »
You need the right kind of machine that will allow that.

Very creative.

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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #53 on: March 09, 2020, 08:41:32 PM »
I'm not a believer in exotic machines, but that did look very impressive.

I don't think most people think of Nautilus machines as being exotic. They've been around for a very long time. Arthur Jones created the Nautilus machine, then called the Blue Monster, in the late 1960s, with the purpose of developing a fitness machine that accommodates human movement. The company was bought by Schwinn in 1986.

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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #54 on: March 09, 2020, 08:46:31 PM »
Im telling you after 25 years of doing them they must be done heavy. Dont use loose form as your shoulders can get messed up easily. It takes a lot of experience to get the most out of them. They will challenge you believe that. Ohvand i put a pair of 80s on the floor to put my feet under. Its better to have someone syltand on your feet but thats not always feasible.

The nautilus pullover offers a better lat contraction at the expense of stretch and they just arent that challenging to me. Trust me-dig deep, really go for it. Work down to 4 reps, its worth it.

If but I could do them with a barbell or even a dumbbell, I would. Because of osteoarthritis in both my hands my grip is shit and when the pain hits, I'm likely to drop whatever I'm holding. The only safe way for me to do pullovers at this stage of the game is to do them on a machine, regardless of the weight load.

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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #55 on: March 09, 2020, 09:48:53 PM »
I don't think most people think of Nautilus machines as being exotic. They've been around for a very long time. Arthur Jones created the Nautilus machine, then called the Blue Monster, in the late 1960s, with the purpose of developing a fitness machine that accommodates human movement. The company was bought by Schwinn in 1986.

Golds in mountain view ca still has one. The same one dorian uses in blood and guts. Awesome machine sometimes but dumbell still vastly superior.

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Re: pullovers
« Reply #56 on: March 09, 2020, 11:14:11 PM »
Of course, but most gyms I have been to do not have the pullover machine.

And if there is a machine, you should know this: These machines, at least all I have ever seen, has one little fault; They all have long straight backrest, so the machine is effecting your muscle only. When you do it with DB hanging cross the bench, it is effecting also in your posture, it stretches your ribcage and give more mobility for your thoracic spine, which could be quite stiff for most of us..


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Re: pullovers
« Reply #57 on: March 10, 2020, 07:23:17 AM »
I rather do endless curls on Vince’s biceps machine

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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #58 on: March 10, 2020, 09:04:34 AM »
Anyone try the Hammer Strength pullover. I have the opportunity to buy one cheap but it's a huge monstrosity to have in my basement gym.

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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #59 on: March 10, 2020, 09:28:22 AM »
I always dis heavy dumbell pullovers...........didn`t do much to expand my ribcage but a 100 pound dumbell held with fingers interlocked helped my lats in a big way.

Start off lightly cuz your triceps will get very sore until they get used to the pullovers........this could wreck your triceps training for days at a time trust me on that !!

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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #60 on: March 10, 2020, 10:04:02 AM »
I always dis heavy dumbell pullovers...........didn`t do much to expand my ribcage but a 100 pound dumbell held with fingers interlocked helped my lats in a big way.

Start off lightly cuz your triceps will get very sore until they get used to the pullovers........this could wreck your triceps training for days at a time trust me on that !!
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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #61 on: March 10, 2020, 10:07:02 AM »
Anyone try the Hammer Strength pullover. I have the opportunity to buy one cheap but it's a huge monstrosity to have in my basement gym.

Can't see dedicating that much space to one specific exercise, unless it's squats or DLs or something.
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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #62 on: March 10, 2020, 11:58:07 AM »
I always dis heavy dumbell pullovers...........didn`t do much to expand my ribcage but a 100 pound dumbell held with fingers interlocked helped my lats in a big way.

Start off lightly cuz your triceps will get very sore until they get used to the pullovers........this could wreck your triceps training for days at a time trust me on that !!

One of the gyms I go to has a tricep machine which can also be used to do pullovers. One of the neat things about it is that it is ISO lateral in that each side is worked independently. The other thing cool about it is that you arch your back while doing them because the foot platform moves with you.

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Re: pullovers
« Reply #63 on: March 10, 2020, 04:22:11 PM »
Very interesting.Im usually very inventive with machines but never once thought about doing this.

Most don't think of it because the roller is usually in contact with the lower legs. It's not just in touch with the legs but the shoes and whatever was on people's feet. If you do this in a well trafficked gym clean it first.

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Re: pullovers
« Reply #64 on: March 10, 2020, 09:09:58 PM »
Most don't think of it because the roller is usually in contact with the lower legs. It's not just in touch with the legs but the shoes and whatever was on people's feet. If you do this in a well trafficked gym clean it first.

I think I saw somebody using a lying leg curl to do pullovers the other day. I had no idea that was what they were doing.

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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #65 on: March 11, 2020, 09:55:03 AM »
any of you guys do them if you have no machine? with a barbell. asking cause my gym has no pullover machine so i use a barbell. really feel my lats.
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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #66 on: March 11, 2020, 09:57:32 AM »
One of the gyms I go to has a tricep machine which can also be used to do pullovers. One of the neat things about it is that it is ISO lateral in that each side is worked independently. The other thing cool about it is that you arch your back while doing them because the foot platform moves with you.
Yeah I`ve seen those machines Prime but never tested one out.........DB Pullover was always my go to movement.

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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #67 on: March 11, 2020, 10:27:15 AM »
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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #68 on: October 08, 2021, 01:24:45 PM »
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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #69 on: October 08, 2021, 03:02:04 PM »
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This could inexpensively and conveniently mimic a moon bench if you basically sit on your heels and have your ribcage less horizontal, more at 45 degree angle(fully inflated or larger Swiss ball helps to be more vertical), but people seem to exclusively mimic flat bench pullovers(with the added stabilization factor for both versions).


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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #70 on: October 08, 2021, 03:38:10 PM »
I would like to use a Nautilus pullover machine but I don't have one. So I do stiff arm pulldowns standing in front of the lat machine.  It's not as good but it's better than nothing.  I use to pre-exhaust my lats and then do a rowing movement immediately after reaching failure.

It's okay.

I do the exact same thing. Well, sort of. I don't like keeping my arms stiff and I like to use the bar where it's kind of an upsidedown "V". Also, I'll also use the rope for variety. Then do an overhead pull-down movement. One of the few exercises where I can do a decent pre-exhaust superset since you use the same machine. Very hard to do pre-exhaust and supersets in gyms today since it's so crowded with the cell-phone dead weights that make up the majority of the gym floor nowadays.

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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #71 on: October 08, 2021, 04:55:59 PM »
Actual machine is priceless
 Best thing for the lats.

Never did get anything out of alternate versions.. using the pulleys, using a dumbbell, trying the hamstring curl machines...

 

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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #72 on: October 08, 2021, 05:38:30 PM »
I used to only to them on a machine (Bodymasters or Hammer) but when the gyms shut down last year I started doing them with a dumbbell and now I like them both equally

I do it as the last exercise of my lat workout (I superset check and back) alternated with incline dumbbell flys or pec deck (I like the older version with the elbow pads)


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Re: Pullovers - do you do them even when there is no machine?
« Reply #73 on: October 09, 2021, 04:41:28 AM »
Pullovers are good for the lats and triceps.