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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2022, 10:43:06 AM »
You should stop TRT when you past 50.
Anabolism is accelerating aging process by
increasing cellular renewal and.therefore many
forms of Cancers.

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #26 on: February 20, 2022, 11:32:18 AM »
Everyone metabolizes differently I think. For me 120mgs put me at 1215 day after inj. On day 7 I was at 706.

True. I wonder what his SHBG is

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2022, 01:02:23 AM »
You should stop TRT when you past 50.
Anabolism is accelerating aging process by
increasing cellular renewal and.therefore many
forms of Cancers.

nah, not legit trt
will get just as sick having zero testosterone and withering away as well
so there's that

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2022, 01:47:29 AM »
How about your lipid profile? Is it within range?
Isn't blood thickening a long term side effect of "high end" level of TRT?

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2022, 02:07:41 AM »
I’ve been doing it this way for years.  Half Monday, half Sunday .. or thereabouts.  I’ve tried pinning everyday but it was just too much of a hassle and I wouldn’t stay consistent for longer than a week or two.  I can believe that it works better but I’m just not willing to put in the effort  ;D

Also get a large gauge insulin pin and do it subq, harpooning your muscles every week for years on end is just barbaric.  27-28ga insulin pin works a treat

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2022, 02:13:13 AM »
How about your lipid profile? Is it within range?
Isn't blood thickening a long term side effect of "high end" level of TRT?

Blood thickening doesn't seem to happen to the same degree in everone. I know when I used to do high juice my hematocrit was still normal range. Then others get to alarming levels at 100mg a week. I haven't researched it but there are various schools of thought on what should be done about high HCT and what numbers are acceptable. Some say bloodletting should never be done.
Lipid skewing is kind of the same thing. Testosterone does something to cholesterol transport that may be protective even with "bad" numbers so the numbers don't tell the whole story. I haven't really researched this deeply either.



Also get a large gauge insulin pin and do it subq, harpooning your muscles every week for years on end is just barbaric.  27-28ga insulin pin works a treat

When I tried subq I used that gauge. Used detachable needles and syringes so it was easier to load with a big pin, instead of backloading which is a bitch.

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2022, 02:15:08 AM »
How about your lipid profile? Is it within range?
Isn't blood thickening a long term side effect of "high end" level of TRT?

it could be for many
many it does not affect at
blood-work a few times a year is a must

at 1/2 a cc a week for the last 5 years, I have some of the best blood-work ive ever had.
everything in perfect range
calcium score, stress-test, stress-echo, etc
had it all done

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2022, 06:33:49 AM »
How about your lipid profile? Is it within range?
Isn't blood thickening a long term side effect of "high end" level of TRT?

Your doctor will Rx you monthly blood donations if your hematocrit gets too high.  Nothing to worry about.  AAS users should be donating anyway.

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2022, 06:47:02 AM »
Your doctor will Rx you monthly blood donations if your hematocrit gets too high.  Nothing to worry about.  AAS users should be donating anyway.

In my country hormonized blood from bodybuilders is not accepted.

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2022, 08:38:39 AM »
In my country hormonized blood from bodybuilders is not accepted.

In my country, blood from gays, HIV+, or incarceration for more than 72 consecutive hours during the previous 12 months is not accepted.  But if they (and you) get a Rx from  your doctor the blood clinics can still perform phlebotomy on you.  They just have to destroy the blood afterwards.  They can not use it or sell it.

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2022, 09:03:57 AM »
I’m prescribed 200mg of cyp a week.

I give my self daily shots of a little less that 15 units..when doing this I have never needed an AI, there are no peaks and valleys. And my numbers are always at least a thousand.

I also do my hcg this way.

Check out this thread…

https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/10-mg.142864/

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2022, 10:06:40 AM »
Your doctor will Rx you monthly blood donations if your hematocrit gets too high.  Nothing to worry about.  AAS users should be donating anyway.

There are some experts who claim donating does more harm than good. I spoke to a top endocrinologist who admitted there's little evidence donating reduces the risk of whatever, "but we do it anyway because we just don't like to see high numbers."


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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2022, 10:12:11 AM »
In my country, blood from gays, HIV+, or incarceration for more than 72 consecutive hours during the previous 12 months is not accepted.  But if they (and you) get a Rx from  your doctor the blood clinics can still perform phlebotomy on you.  They just have to destroy the blood afterwards.  They can not use it or sell it.

I'm sure the answer is blindingly obvious, but for the life of me I can't figure out the reason for that third category of exclusion? ???

Can someone please put a stupid man out of his misery and explain why that one is in there?
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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #38 on: February 21, 2022, 11:40:41 AM »
I'm sure the answer is blindingly obvious, but for the life of me I can't figure out the reason for that third category of exclusion? ???

Can someone please put a stupid man out of his misery and explain why that one is in there?

They are at high risk for infectious diseases.

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #39 on: February 21, 2022, 11:50:59 AM »
There are some experts who claim donating does more harm than good. I spoke to a top endocrinologist who admitted there's little evidence donating reduces the risk of whatever, "but we do it anyway because we just don't like to see high numbers."
Thick blood is never ok.
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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #40 on: February 21, 2022, 12:44:57 PM »
How about your lipid profile? Is it within range?
Isn't blood thickening a long term side effect of "high end" level of TRT?
It’s why you pop some baby aspirin every night..lifters should be doing it anyways

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #41 on: February 21, 2022, 01:39:07 PM »
My Endo always told me to shoot my Test C every 3-4 days. Says it's more stable in your system.

Also, he asks me to do my blood work 3-4 days post injection.

Never used AI's.

I've donated blood twice a year for almost two decades. Not for health reasons but just because it's a good thing to do.

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #42 on: February 21, 2022, 02:36:15 PM »
I’m prescribed 200mg of cyp a week.

I give my self daily shots of a little less that 15 units..when doing this I have never needed an AI, there are no peaks and valleys. And my numbers are always at least a thousand.

I also do my hcg this way.

Check out this thread…

https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/10-mg.142864/

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Minor ed doses is the way to go, blood serum levels are more stable/consistent and the same for estro levels.

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #43 on: February 21, 2022, 05:30:31 PM »
How about your lipid profile? Is it within range?
Isn't blood thickening a long term side effect of "high end" level of TRT?
my lipids are all fine, if my rbc gets too high then my doc would tell me to donate, but it came back fine.

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #44 on: February 21, 2022, 05:37:47 PM »
Hmmm I don’t see how it’s possible to be in the 800-900 range when injecting 200mg and doing labs a few days later. That’s a whopping dose for TRT. The conversion is nearly double the natural testosterone of a naturally elite producer
previous lab work

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #45 on: February 21, 2022, 05:39:47 PM »
I’m prescribed 200mg of cyp a week.

I give my self daily shots of a little less that 15 units..when doing this I have never needed an AI, there are no peaks and valleys. And my numbers are always at least a thousand.

I also do my hcg this way.

Check out this thread…

https://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/index.php?threads/10-mg.142864/

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Emeric Delczeg approach.

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Re: Trt optimization hack
« Reply #46 on: February 21, 2022, 09:00:27 PM »
Emeric Delczeg approach.
The man is right..I just double the dose using the same principles

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