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Re: Heavy shouder pressing
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2006, 01:03:57 PM »
for all the stories about rich's strenght, he just proved all of them wrong with that clip.

most intense trainer?  i hope not from that clip.  he did 2 drop sets.  wow.


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Re: Heavy shouder pressing
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2006, 01:07:08 PM »
Monster inability to recognize awesome sarcasm when he sees it.

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Re: Heavy shouder pressing
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2006, 01:56:42 PM »
Not to change the subject, but this reminds me of that earlier thread about puking and injuries. People saying that if you didn't puke ever, you weren't working out with enough intensity, etc...

Thinking about it, imo, you only puke if you seriously ramp up the intensity on a single workout event. So if you normally do 6 sets 20x18x16x14x12x10 starting at 100lbs and going up to 200lbs (arbitrary #'s for arbitrary exercise), and one day decide to do 12 sets starting at 100lbs and going to 250lbs...you'll puke.

You puke because you got to the point where you are actually working intensely. Prior to that event, you haven't been pushing yourself enough -- this is evident in the fact that you were able to do the extra work this time, but have not until this event.

Basically, I'm saying all you jerko's who say you have to puke to prove you're working out intensely are numbnuts who never worked out intensely to begin with.  ::)

If your not an unfit fatfuck you won't puke.
Only people I see feel sick/be sick are fat/unhealthy or jsut ate a very big meal before gym.

As to Gaspari, those are pussy weights he is lifting for shoudlers, no doubt he was using growth, look atr his midsection in the l8 80's, was blocky as hell.

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Re: Heavy shouder pressing
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2006, 02:07:53 PM »
His first set starts with the 100's. Look at when the camera is at his side, there are three digit's to the number. He does his first 5-6 reps, then drops them and picks up what appear to be 90's and then drops down another time.
This may not have been his first drop set, nor his first exercise.
I would expect him to get more reps out of each drop, but with that little clip you can't tell too much.

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Re: Heavy shouder pressing
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2006, 02:41:48 PM »
If you wait a sufficient amount of time between your last meal and your workout you also won't be able to puke.  Is timing your meals and workouts with some degree of intelligence really so difficult?  Anyone who seems to believe that puking is necessary is just a meathead through and through.  As for injuries - it should be obvious when you're pushing things too far, and you should never need to get injured - not EVER.  Not even to become a pro or develop a world class physique.  It is simply unnecessary no matter how you cut it.

Not to derail the thread, but like Adam said, even the nutritional guidelines we read about (eat six meals a day, X amount of protein, etc) are overplayed as well.  I spoke with a juicer today who went up to a cut weight of 235 at 5'10 and had a horrible diet.  People like me on the other hand, do need to eat multiple meals throughout the day to gain size.  Another thing we can't forget is how individualized bodybuilding is - whatever Gaspari did obviously worked for him, and I still maintain he was an intense trainer, although maybe not to the degree he said he was.

good post.

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Re: Heavy shouder pressing
« Reply #30 on: August 17, 2006, 10:30:25 AM »
shut the f**k up,and stop being stupid the man was strong as hell,
when you reach the size and power and status he had then open your mouth.

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Re: Heavy shouder pressing
« Reply #31 on: August 17, 2006, 12:08:03 PM »
And probably resting a minute in between the next series, not 3 or 4 minutes like these guys today.
anyone can rest a minute between sets when you're pressing db's well under a hundred pounds.
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Re: Heavy shouder pressing
« Reply #32 on: August 17, 2006, 04:01:36 PM »
i saw richie doin 300lb behind the neck presses fairly easy back in 82
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Re: Heavy shouder pressing
« Reply #33 on: August 17, 2006, 04:06:15 PM »
If it was intense then he'd be lying on the floor puking and not admiring himself in the mirror.
That is one of the easiest workouts I've ever seen.

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Re: Heavy shouder pressing
« Reply #34 on: August 17, 2006, 09:08:14 PM »
Regarding puking, it's my understanding that conditions such as low blood sugar and dehydration can lead to nausea and vomiting. I've had many leg workouts (and a few back workouts) over the years that made me feel nauseous, and I actually did puke after a few workouts here and there (a long time ago), regardless of how long after a meal I waited to go to the gym or how light I ate or whatever.

I noticed this was more common years ago when I did quads, hams, and calves all together (doing an awful lot of intense work in 60-90 minutes) and did not have a particularly good degree of cardiovascular conditioning. I think I was doing too much volume of work (at a very high level of "intensity" or effort) in one session.

In recent years, I've been more focused on overall health and have greatly improved my cardiovascular conditioning. I've also been doing hams and calves in one workout by themselves, followed by quads by themselves several days later. I feel that I need to do a fair amount of volume for each of the three muscle groups, and I simply cannot work all three together sufficiently (in terms of volume and intensity) - so I split leg work into two workouts. Since making these changes, I don't usually feel like I'm gonna puke anymore after even the most demanding workout (quads) of the week. I'm also much bigger and stronger as well.
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