Good Newbie Cycle??

[powerbomb]

I am 27 yrs old /5'10" /205. I was wondering what some of you experienced guys thought about this as a first cycle? 

 A stack of 200 mg Deca Durabolin/week, 250 mg Testoviron Ethanate/week, and 25 mg Anavar/day

 From what I have read some people recommend 500 mg of the Test E a week.

 Let me know what you guys think. good,shitty or other suggestions.    Thanks

[udeluz]

We need to know the duration of the cycle
As far a doses..

500mg Test a week
200mg Deca a week
30mg Anavar ed for 4 weeks

[Arnold jr]

We need to know the duration of the cycle

He's right, and either way go ahead and bump the test to 500mg/wk and also make sure you've planned out PCT.

[powerbomb]

Sorry, forgot the most important part.  The duration would be 10 weeks.
 I havent gotten any of the gear yet. I just wanted to ask you guys and make sure it sounded ok. I wont start the cycle until I have everything in hand. For the post cycle I was going to go with the advice on the newbies post.

2 weeks after your last shot of Test. Enth. you should be starting your PCT. The most common combo is to use clomid and nolvadex together. Clomid is run at 300mg day 1, 100mg day 2-14, and 50mg day 15-30. Nolva should be run with it at 20mg for the whole 30 days you are on clomid

[udeluz]

Sorry, forgot the most important part.  The duration would be 10 weeks.
 I havent gotten any of the gear yet. I just wanted to ask you guys and make sure it sounded ok. I wont start the cycle until I have everything in hand. For the post cycle I was going to go with the advice on the newbies post.

Can I ask why only 10 weeks?

[powerbomb]

 I figured since it was my first cycle that it might not be a good idea to go into a 16 week supercycle. I've been reading a good amount on the topic from different sites and they all seem to lean towards a shorter cycle for the first. Should I go longer?

[SLYY]

10 weeks is a great time duration for a newbie

[udeluz]

No 10 is cool, I was just wondering because everyone seems to start with either a 12 or 16

[powerbomb]

 Ok so 10 it is.  If I decide to do another cycle after this one I will bump it up for sure. Thanks for your advice.

[Luv2Hurt]

If you are gonna do a short 10 week cycle, I would not use deca.  takes too long to start working and lingers too long, it will be a mess at the end and by the time it really starts working you will be getting ready to get off cycle.  You will not be under the affect long enough for any real gains.

Test E or C 500mg EW, what I would really like to see you use on this short cycle is test prop, but you need to pin it 100mg EOD

D-bol 30mg ED

[SLYY]

If you are gonna do a short 10 week cycle, I would not use deca.  takes too long to start working and lingers too long, it will be a mess at the end and by the time it really starts working you will be getting ready to get off cycle.  You will not be under the affect long enough for any real gains.

Test E or C 500mg EW, what I would really like to see you use on this short cycle is test prop, but you need to pin it 100mg EOD

D-bol 30mg ED

I agree, skip the deca.  IMO, you should just run test at 500mg a week

[powerbomb]

what I would really like to see you use on this short cycle is test prop, but you need to pin it 100mg EOD

With the Test Prop would that be pinning EOD for the whole 10 weeks?

 I understand about cutting out the deca but the reason  I chose the Anavar and Test E was that I read that I wouldnt retain alot of water as opposed to the other Test choices and the sides seemed to be alot more mild if any at all. Doesnt Dbol retain alot of water?

[trulytoned]

what exactly are you planning on doing for pct

[Luv2Hurt]

With the Test Prop would that be pinning EOD for the whole 10 weeks?

 

Yes EOD for the whole 10 weeks.  That can get uncomfortable I agree, I hate pinning and each time you pin you put yourself at risk, so the less the better.  But test prop is fast acting, which makes it great for a shorter cycle.  It starts fast and ends fast, which makes pct timing easier.

Yes d-bol will bloat you up.  Its a good gainer though, way stronger than anavar and cheaper.  But the anavar would work too and it is pretty free of sides.  Test prop and anavar would be good choices to keep water retention down from AAS, it kind of depends on your goals.

[wes mantooth]

If you are gonna do a short 10 week cycle, I would not use deca.  takes too long to start working and lingers too long, it will be a mess at the end and by the time it really starts working you will be getting ready to get off cycle.  You will not be under the affect long enough for any real gains.

Test E or C 500mg EW, what I would really like to see you use on this short cycle is test prop, but you need to pin it 100mg EOD

D-bol 30mg ED

test e @ 500 a week

drop the var and go with dbol

drop the deca.......do it next time

[Luv2Hurt]

Yes, and if you decide to use deca next cycle, make that cycle 16-20 wks long.  Use it like this on a 20 week cycle.

Test 1-20 minimum 500-600mg mg WK
Deca 1-16 400mg WK

[powerbomb]

Thanks for all the advice. It was a big help.

[powerbomb]

I was just reading the other post about someone elses first cycle and he was paying $800. for his cycle(online). I noticed everyone said it was a rip-off. Now me being a New user and not having ANY buying experience at all.... what should I be  paying for my cycle?


 10 wks.
 
 500 mg of Test E/ wk

 30 mg 0f Anavar/ED for 4 weeks

[Arnold jr]

I was just reading the other post about someone elses first cycle and he was paying $800. for his cycle(online). I noticed everyone said it was a rip-off. Now me being a New user and not having ANY buying experience at all.... what should I be  paying for my cycle?


 10 wks.
 
 500 mg of Test E/ wk

 30 mg 0f Anavar/ED for 4 weeks

$150-300 depending on source and if it's UG or HG...and if yoo look hard enough and become a regular enough customer, you can get that $150 dropped a good bit

[sportingsteroids]

Yes, and if you decide to use deca next cycle, make that cycle 16-20 wks long.  Use it like this on a 20 week cycle.

Test 1-20 minimum 500-600mg mg WK
Deca 1-16 400mg WK

and dbol

[trulytoned]

$150-300 depending on source and if it's UG or HG...and if yoo look hard enough and become a regular enough customer, you can get that $150 dropped a good bit

can you get HG without a script?

[Arnold jr]

can you get HG without a script?

yes

[trulytoned]

yes

elaborate,
i didnt realize you could actually get HG from dealers i thought it was mostly UG