Fish oils

[smaul]

How many grams do you take daily?  I now take 2 grams but am thinking about taking 3 grams.  Will I get vitamin D poisoning if I have multis as well?

[DK II]

How many grams do you take daily?  I now take 2 grams but am thinking about taking 3 grams.  Will I get vitamin D poisoning if I have multis as well?

2-3g?

You can get up to 10g if you like. vit D poisoning is very unlikely because it contains mainly vit E, lol.

Don't rely too much on supps, try to eat real fish and use rapeseed oil or flaxseed oil.

[Princess L]

How many grams do you take daily? 

I take 6.

I now take 2 grams but am thinking about taking 3 grams.  Will I get vitamin D poisoning if I have multis as well?

Use FISH OIL (fish body oils)  NOT cod liver oil and you'll have no worries.

BTW ~ There's been a recent study supporting 1000 iu vit D /daily.  I haven't read it yet tho.

[MidniteRambo]

I currently take 9g of fish oil per day and in the past up to 18g with no problem.  There are some benefits you may not achieve without being closer to the 9g range from what I've read and previously posted.

[Princess L]

I currently take 9g of fish oil per day and in the past up to 18g with no problem.  There are some benefits you may not achieve without being closer to the 9g range from what I've read and previouysly posted.

Midnite,

I think we've had this discussion B4 regarding supplementing with HIGH doses of fish oil.  Outside of the treatment of various illnesses, disorders and inflamatory issues, what benefits are you referring to?  More is not always better...

BTW ~ just an FYI - in the event you ever need a surgery or procedure or something where a Dr. tells you to discontinue asprin or something like that (getting a wisdom tooth pulled would be an example), they should know about the fish oil because it can thin the blood significantly (like asprin) especially at high doses.

[loco]

6g....3g in the morning and 3g in the evening + one pouch of Tuna for lunch.

Rambo,
The only problem that I see with consuming too much fish oil is that the stench starts to come out of your pores and out of your breath.  You'll start to smell either like fish or worse, smelling like pee.

Princess,
Another benefit of fish oil is that it helps make your cells more insulin sensitive, as opposed to making them insulin resistant, which is very bad.  In other words, it makes your muscles absorb more nutrients, helps prevent obesity and diabetes.  It also has a positive effect on blood sugar levels, probably because of what I already mentioned.  This is one reason Jay Cutler consumes large quantities of fatty fish when dieting for competition, at least he used to do that on Chris Aceto's advice.

[Jr. Yates]

something i need to get on top of. my fish oils and muliti's. I've never been to adiment about them.

[MidniteRambo]

Midnite,

I think we've had this discussion B4 regarding supplementing with HIGH doses of fish oil.  Outside of the treatment of various illnesses, disorders and inflamatory issues, what benefits are you referring to?  More is not always better...

BTW ~ just an FYI - in the event you ever need a surgery or procedure or something where a Dr. tells you to discontinue asprin or something like that (getting a wisdom tooth pulled would be an example), they should know about the fish oil because it can thin the blood significantly (like asprin) especially at high doses.

The studies indicate benefits at 9g consumption including support for cholesterol, inflamatory, immune systmen and pulmonary functions, all of which provide support to a high intensity training regimen.  The blood thinning apsect is something which I have considered and decided that the benefits outweigh the potential negatives.  I don't believe 9g is an excessive dose (although I concede that my prior 18g experiment may have been).

[Princess L]

The studies indicate benefits at 9g consumption including support for cholesterol, inflamatory, immune systmen and pulmonary functions, all of which provide support to a high intensity training regimen.  The blood thinning apsect is something which I have considered and decided that the benefits outweigh the potential negatives.  I don't believe 9g is an excessive dose (although I concede that my prior 18g experiment may have been).

Yes, I believe the 18 grams was quite excessive and I also believe 9 grams is bordering on being a bit over the top.  Not that you're at any (known as of now)  risk of anything (unless it's not a high quality), but you're probably taking more than you need which is a waste IMO.  Again, I would like to see the studies supporting ~9~ grams/day for basic heart, health and wellness (...cholesterol, inflamatory, immune systmen and pulmonary functions).

Princess,
Another benefit of fish oil is that it helps make your cells more insulin sensitive, as opposed to making them insulin resistant, which is very bad.  In other words, it makes your muscles absorb more nutrients, helps prevent obesity and diabetes.  It also has a positive effect on blood sugar levels, probably because of what I already mentioned.  This is one reason Jay Cutler consumes large quantities of fatty fish when dieting for competition, at least he used to do that on Chris Aceto's advice.

Thank you.  Fish oil is one area I am very well versed on   

...not that Chris' advice on many subjects is inaccurate, however, personally, I wouldn't put alot into what he says anymore than I would Chad Nichols or any of the other "gurus' out there.

[BigNBloated]

Is taking fish oil and flaxseed oil at the same time not necessary since they both contain omegas? Ive been taking in both but only for a short time in the doses you have explained so 18 grams all together.

[loco]

personally, I wouldn't put alot into what he says anymore than I would Chad Nichols or any of the other "gurus' out there.

I would.  I don't know anything about Chad Nichols other than rumors that he is a performance enhancing drug "guru".

Chris Aceto, on the other hand, is a registered nutritionist and natural bodybuilder.  He has worked with many amateur and professional bodybuilders.  He is not a drug "guru".  He is a nutrition guru.  The guy definitely knows his stuff.  He has learned from school and from personal experience.  I personally have followed his advice for pre-contest dieting and I have experienced great results.

I respect your knowledge of fish oils and your knowledge of nutrition in general, and I have learned a few things by reading some of your posts.  However, you too could learn a thing or two from some of us who have trained and dieted for competition a few times.  Bodybuilders have been known to be one step ahead of science when it comes to nutrition and training.  Didn't doctors and scientist say back in the 70s that consuming more protein than the recommended daily amount was useless for building muscle?  Now they admit that they were wrong and bodybuilders were right.

[Princess L]

Chris Aceto, on the other hand, is a registered nutritionist and natural bodybuilder.  He has worked with many amateur and professional bodybuilders.  He is not a drug "guru".  He is a nutrition guru.  The guy definitely knows his stuff.  He has learned from school and from personal experience.  I personally have followed his advice for pre-contest dieting and I have experienced great results.

I have nothing against Chris - honest    What he prints for the public eye is generally non-controversial, basic, common sense (common sense to people like us), evidence supportable material.  Basically, all I'm saying is don't kid yourself into thinking his training and nutrition consultations on the other hand are natural. 



Nutritionist Hall of Fame
http://www.nutramedia.com/HallOfFame/

[loco]

Basically, all I'm saying is don't kid yourself into thinking his training and nutrition consultations on the other hand are natural. 

Thanks Pricess!  I don't kid myself about that.  I know that he gives training and drug advice too.  I have several of his books.  He's no training/drug guru, but he is a nutrition guru.  I pay attention only to his nutrition advice.  If I needed training advice, I'd go to somebody else. 

[Hedgehog]

Thanks Pricess!  I don't kid myself about that.  I know that he gives training and drug advice too.  I have several of his books.  He's no training/drug guru, but he is a nutrition guru.  I pay attention only to his nutrition advice.  If I needed training advice, I'd go to somebody else. 

Bro.

No offence to any of these top nutritionists, but they aren't suited to give advice to natural athletes, since they work with guys that are on the juice a lot.

It really distorts their understanding of nutrition and training.

Eg, one of these "nutritionists" will recommend Glutamine. How would he possibly know that Glutamine is the one factor, when his athletes are taking boatloads of different drugs?

From reading PubMed? I can read PubMed too.

My suggestion is that you look elsewhere for nutrition advice.

If you are a natural athlete, then ask gurus and experts that only work in that field.

IOC experts or at least Team Universe winners would be a good start perhaps.

Chris Aceto, he's got no credibility as far as natural bodybuilding goes IMO.

YIP
Zack

[loco]

Bro.

No offence to any of these top nutritionists, but they aren't suited to give advice to natural athletes, since they work with guys that are on the juice a lot.

It really distorts their understanding of nutrition and training.

Eg, one of these "nutritionists" will recommend Glutamine. How would he possibly know that Glutamine is the one factor, when his athletes are taking boatloads of different drugs?

From reading PubMed? I can read PubMed too.

My suggestion is that you look elsewhere for nutrition advice.

If you are a natural athlete, then ask gurus and experts that only work in that field.

IOC experts or at least Team Universe winners would be a good start perhaps.

Chris Aceto, he's got no credibility as far as natural bodybuilding goes IMO.

YIP
Zack

No offence taken.  Chris started off training himself and training naturals.  He then started training Pros.  I have read some of his older material and that's what I go by.  I don't know about his newer material, if any exists.  As for Team Universe winners, like Jeff and Skip, I do take advice from AST too.  Then again, many people say that these guys aren't natural.  Thanks for the advice!