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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #25 on: January 10, 2007, 04:36:14 AM »
if fedor and cro cop were both in the ufc, where does that leave the likes of liddell, ortiz, etc (i won't even mention the hws)?

those guys are big, getting bigger, celebrities in america and dana has spent alot of time and money cultivating that ie chuck has no personality so we'll call him the ice man. seen how many hollywood stars turn up to the shows? the huge fan fare, etc? he has taken a leaf out of the pro boxing promoter's handbook and realized that the real money lies in CELEBRITIES. he has to SELL the personalities.

it's not about the best fighter it's about who brings the most money and when you've invested so much in building the rep of guys like that you need to protect them big time.

larry holmes was the hw champ in boxing. don king was his manager and holmes made alot less money than the guys before him. why? because the man had no selling point. the paying public just didn't give a shit about him.

tyson, on the other hand, had a selling point. he was ferocious and the public lapped it up, so tyson was protected big time. anyone that might pose a problem for tyson was avoided eg. lennox was paid 4 million just to step aside from his rightful shot at tyson.

mirko is bad enough and dana needed someone to add something to his pathetic hw division, but fedor would absolutely rape liddell and the rest and BOOM, gone is the mystique and the fan base follows.

fedor and mirko would be the top guys, but they are not american and can't even speak english.

fedor is so methodical and lacking in personality that, even though he is clearly the man at pride, the question is he going to make up for the big names he destroys? 


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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #26 on: January 10, 2007, 11:48:36 AM »
Mirko speaks pretty good English actually but he seems to be very soft spoken and quiet.

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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #27 on: January 10, 2007, 12:32:37 PM »
hahahahahaha. That's true about Chuck. I've heard him in interviews and he has zero personality. Hence, "Iceman" hahaha. Fedor has no personality either.
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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #28 on: January 10, 2007, 12:46:18 PM »
it's not that they don't have personalities, they have class and actually show respect for their opponent

it's unfortunate that the general public would rather see a less talented guy with a big mouth like tito ::)

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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #29 on: January 10, 2007, 12:48:27 PM »
it's not that they don't have personalities, they have class and actually show respect for their opponent

it's unfortunate that the general public would rather see a less talented guy with a big mouth like tito ::)

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No offense to Rampage, but look at him. His interviews are one of the biggest reasons why people still talk about him all the time.

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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #30 on: January 10, 2007, 12:49:43 PM »
No offense to Rampage, but look at him. His interviews are one of the biggest reasons why people still talk about him all the time.

he's just "keeping it real" ;)

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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #31 on: January 10, 2007, 12:51:14 PM »
he's just "keeping it real" ;)

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hahaha, I suppose. His interviews are definetely some of the funniest shit I've ever read.

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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #32 on: January 10, 2007, 12:53:18 PM »
kevin randleman gives interesting interviews too

he'll be talking normal and then BAM he just starts screaming for no apparent reason

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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #33 on: January 10, 2007, 02:02:18 PM »
hahaha, I suppose. His interviews are definetely some of the funniest shit I've ever read.

I like when he talks about people trying to take his "Cheddar"

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« Reply #34 on: January 10, 2007, 06:03:41 PM »
I care for some loudmouth like Tito "lord of the cans" Ortiz. You don't have to be a jackass to have personality. Chuck, Mirko, are just dull and boring when they talk. Anyway, I'm more interested in their ring capabilities.
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« Reply #35 on: January 11, 2007, 04:31:32 AM »
you guys and those on other mma forums like sherdog, etc are obviously hard core fans, but dana needs to attract joe public thus he needs to sell his celebrities and then re-sell them again and again add nauseum.

he realizes it's all getting a bit tired (how many times do we have to look at shamrock melting down in the audience, chuck wide eyed like a fucking junky and ortiz being the obnoxious prat that he is?  ::)

it's the same old act every time and it gets a bit tired. enter mirko and boom, they'll call him the assassin or something and sell him as some sort of killing machine. as don king would say, "only in america!"

unfortunately the perfect fighting machine is not any of this shit (as some of you know). this animal is instead someone who controls his emotions, saves his energy, stays real loose and reserves his adrenaline and killer instinct (for want of a less redundant term) for the ring. he must be exactly like a stone cold killer and go about his business with no real feeling at all. fear, hate, anger, even sadness and love are useful to stir up adrenaline and motivation, but these emotions MUST be in complete control if you want to fight well.

when shamrock has meltdown after meltdown (all veins popping out and tight as fuck) he's burning up all his adrenaline, stamina and psychological edge. when it comes time to fight the man's done all his fighting OUTSIDE the ring. even pretending to melt down is a waste of energy because if you're convincing enough the body doesn't actually know the difference and will leave you just as fucked (trust me, been there).

guys like fedor, mirko and even lidell know this so they try to remain as calm as possible. fedor and mirko have been lucky up until now, but now mirko, at least, is going to have to jump through a few hoops to up the ticket sales.

even someone as ferocious as tyson during his early career remained very calm when he went about his business. if you ever watch his early fights or even the title fight with berbick you will hear rooney telling him to remain calm as he sits in the corner.

if any of you guys ever compete this will be your greatest advice (ok i've gone completely off topic).

novices 99% of the time run in there all hyped up, nervous and scared and you can see these emotions written all over them. it's like an open book. then you see the trainer hyping them up even more - STUPID!

if the guy at the other end is calm and focused i'll put my money on him every time.

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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #36 on: January 11, 2007, 10:15:09 PM »
you guys and those on other mma forums like sherdog, etc are obviously hard core fans, but dana needs to attract joe public thus he needs to sell his celebrities and then re-sell them again and again add nauseum.

he realizes it's all getting a bit tired (how many times do we have to look at shamrock melting down in the audience, chuck wide eyed like a fucking junky and ortiz being the obnoxious prat that he is?  ::)

it's the same old act every time and it gets a bit tired. enter mirko and boom, they'll call him the assassin or something and sell him as some sort of killing machine. as don king would say, "only in america!"

unfortunately the perfect fighting machine is not any of this shit (as some of you know). this animal is instead someone who controls his emotions, saves his energy, stays real loose and reserves his adrenaline and killer instinct (for want of a less redundant term) for the ring. he must be exactly like a stone cold killer and go about his business with no real feeling at all. fear, hate, anger, even sadness and love are useful to stir up adrenaline and motivation, but these emotions MUST be in complete control if you want to fight well.

when shamrock has meltdown after meltdown (all veins popping out and tight as f**k) he's burning up all his adrenaline, stamina and psychological edge. when it comes time to fight the man's done all his fighting OUTSIDE the ring. even pretending to melt down is a waste of energy because if you're convincing enough the body doesn't actually know the difference and will leave you just as fucked (trust me, been there).

guys like fedor, mirko and even lidell know this so they try to remain as calm as possible. fedor and mirko have been lucky up until now, but now mirko, at least, is going to have to jump through a few hoops to up the ticket sales.

even someone as ferocious as tyson during his early career remained very calm when he went about his business. if you ever watch his early fights or even the title fight with berbick you will hear rooney telling him to remain calm as he sits in the corner.

if any of you guys ever compete this will be your greatest advice (ok i've gone completely off topic).

novices 99% of the time run in there all hyped up, nervous and scared and you can see these emotions written all over them. it's like an open book. then you see the trainer hyping them up even more - STUPID!

if the guy at the other end is calm and focused i'll put my money on him every time.

meltdown.

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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #37 on: January 11, 2007, 10:32:14 PM »
you guys and those on other mma forums like sherdog, etc are obviously hard core fans, but dana needs to attract joe public thus he needs to sell his celebrities and then re-sell them again and again add nauseum.

he realizes it's all getting a bit tired (how many times do we have to look at shamrock melting down in the audience, chuck wide eyed like a fucking junky and ortiz being the obnoxious prat that he is?  ::)

it's the same old act every time and it gets a bit tired. enter mirko and boom, they'll call him the assassin or something and sell him as some sort of killing machine. as don king would say, "only in america!"

unfortunately the perfect fighting machine is not any of this shit (as some of you know). this animal is instead someone who controls his emotions, saves his energy, stays real loose and reserves his adrenaline and killer instinct (for want of a less redundant term) for the ring. he must be exactly like a stone cold killer and go about his business with no real feeling at all. fear, hate, anger, even sadness and love are useful to stir up adrenaline and motivation, but these emotions MUST be in complete control if you want to fight well.

when shamrock has meltdown after meltdown (all veins popping out and tight as f**k) he's burning up all his adrenaline, stamina and psychological edge. when it comes time to fight the man's done all his fighting OUTSIDE the ring. even pretending to melt down is a waste of energy because if you're convincing enough the body doesn't actually know the difference and will leave you just as fucked (trust me, been there).

guys like fedor, mirko and even lidell know this so they try to remain as calm as possible. fedor and mirko have been lucky up until now, but now mirko, at least, is going to have to jump through a few hoops to up the ticket sales.

even someone as ferocious as tyson during his early career remained very calm when he went about his business. if you ever watch his early fights or even the title fight with berbick you will hear rooney telling him to remain calm as he sits in the corner.

if any of you guys ever compete this will be your greatest advice (ok i've gone completely off topic).

novices 99% of the time run in there all hyped up, nervous and scared and you can see these emotions written all over them. it's like an open book. then you see the trainer hyping them up even more - STUPID!

if the guy at the other end is calm and focused i'll put my money on him every time.

I plan to go with cold stare down ala Fedor and Mirko in my first fight, just to be a complete badass.  :o

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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2007, 06:37:25 AM »
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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2007, 07:12:26 AM »
Old news, and I'm still not convinced.  Pride's next American show doesen't look as great as they said it would, Like Sakikabara said, Pride's survival lies in the American market, they could sign whoever they want and still fail in the states.  This year will make or break Pride, hopefully they make it.
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Re: PRIDE resigns Fedor!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2007, 12:32:22 PM »
I plan to go with cold stare down ala Fedor and Mirko in my first fight, just to be a complete badass.  :o

I'm sure your sister will be terrified  ::)