haider,
Hey man, you accused me of spewing ignorance. So I responded showing you that I am not. If this is ignorance, then I am not the one spewing it, but the Muslims are.
I have to look at it within some sort of context to properly judge what is being said.
Who is taking it out of context? Not me. I just showed you Muslims are the ones using these texts to back up their call to kill all Jews. Who do you think I got the text from? I didn't even know they exist.
I don't really sense anti-semitism though, just that it is predicted that muslims will be at war with the jews.
I don't see how you can't see the anti-semitism here, but I'll go with that. Let's say the text just predicts a war between Muslims and Jews.
"You (i.e. Muslims) will fight with the Jews till some of them will hide behind stones"
Looks like the Muslims will kill Jews until a few remaining Jews will flee and hide behind stones and trees.
"The stones will (betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah (i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' "
So Muslims will kill those few remaining Jews too with some help from Allah. Looks like total annihilation to me. And why is Allah in this war on the side of the Muslims and helping them wipe out the Jews?
I dunno the numbers, but I doubt most christians around the world care much about Israel.
It's okay. You are not a Christian, but I am. I know that most Christian around the world do care and support Israel. I am one of those many Christians.
It is irrational to love all jews
Is it? How about to love all people? We Christians are commanded by God to love all people, Jew, Arab, Muslim, homosexual, friend and enemy. This is impossible to do without the power of the Holy Spirit in us. You can receive the Holy Spirit too if you repent of your sins and believe in Jesus Christ.
There's the good and the bad, and Israel has done plenty of bad.
True, but there is no excuse and no justification for what the Jews have gone through over the ages, slavery, hate, exile, the Holocaust, etc. We all have done plenty of bad, but what did Jews do to Hitler? They didn't deserve any of that.
You explicitly said that the God of muslims, and muslims hate jews. This is not true.
Yes, I said that. I didn't just make that up. First, an Arab told me that. He said "I read the Bible and I saw that the God of the Bible loves Jews, yet the god of the Muslims hates Jews." I didn't know this until he told me. But now that I read those Muslim religious texts, I see it too. Why is Allah going to make the stones and the trees "(betray them) saying, 'O 'Abdullah ( i.e. slave of Allah)! There is a Jew hiding behind me; so kill him.' " Why is Allah holding "the Hour of Resurrection - the end of the world" until the Muslims kill all Jews? This is what Muslim leaders are preaching and they have their Muslim religious texts to back it up.
We have no obligation to love jews. The whole idea seems kinda ridiculous to me.
According to the Bible, God says that you, that we all are.
Why are jews given this special status? Becuase of their genes? So if I'm born a jew I deserve God's love more than a white or a black? How is this not unfair?
Deuteronomy 7:6 For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you out of all the peoples on the face of the earth to be his people, his treasured possession.
Deuteronomy 14:2 for you are a people holy to the LORD your God. Out of all the peoples on the face of the earth, the LORD has chosen you to be his treasured possession.
Genesis 12:1-3The LORD had said to Abram, "Leave your country, your people and your father's household and go to the land I will show you.
"I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and
you will be a blessing.
I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and
all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."
God chose the Jews, (the lineage of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob) to bring redemption to the world through Jesus Christ, the Savior. God made a Covenant with Abraham which establishes this very fact. God chose the Jews to be a people separated unto God. Through the Jews, God revealed Himself to mankind. The Jews were a people through whom the salvation (Messiah) would come to the whole world.
There is absolutely no evidence in the Bible where God rejects the Jewish people as His chosen people. God will not break his covenant with Abraham. God does not break promises. God does not lie.
I realy dont know, neither do I really care how the world will end. We should be worrying mroe about how to NOT end the world, rather than pushing for it. This goes against the idea of peace, love, and harmony.
I agree, but again, it's the Muslims that are preaching this, not me. If you disagree with them, then go into the Muslim community and tell them to stop.