Milos's arms workout !!

[Option D]

this is garreth's workout..... lift stick of butter to face bite swallow repeat

LMAO

[BEAST 8692]

i want to see an exclusively milos trained bber factor in a mr o posedown.

sorry, aint gunna happen doing jane fonda type workouts.

milos keeps challenging critics with the old, "last through one of my workouts." bullshit.

i know milos would not last 1 round with a 150lb pro fighter or survive a marathon (a bit of vomiting would be the least of his problems). does that mean milos is a pussy?

obviously not, but it is exactly the same thing when referring to training.

it is not some test of manhood or toughness, it is simply a means to build muscle tissue and strength and the K.I.S.S principle seemed to work fine for 8 time mr o, ronnie coleman.

how many olympia's did you win again milos? 

[Milos_Sarcev]

i want to see an exclusively milos trained bber factor in a mr o posedown.

sorry, aint gunna happen doing jane fonda type workouts.

milos keeps challenging critics with the old, "last through one of my workouts." bullshit.

i know milos would not last 1 round with a 150lb pro fighter or survive a marathon (a bit of vomiting would be the least of his problems). does that mean milos is a pussy?

obviously not, but it is exactly the same thing when referring to training.

it is not some test of manhood or toughness, it is simply a means to build muscle tissue and strength and the K.I.S.S principle seemed to work fine for 8 time mr o, ronnie coleman.

how many olympia's did you win again milos? 

Can't really remember....I have to count all these sets and reps...so I can't confuse myself with such a difficult question: "how many Olympia's did I win?"...
Maybe someone should help me and find statistics from the Olympia...I think I qualified for 10 consecutive times WHEN I WAS COMPETING ( each and every year in the hardest decade of the century...)

But, besides the point - is Mr. Olympia winner the best training, nutritional, posing...etc expert just by winning the title?

For some of you that don't see the forrest from the tree - try to LOOK and maybe you will SEE - if you know what you are looking for...
Until than - GO HEAVY OR GO HOME (the only way to train )

Now - how about if I do your ten best lifts (your maximal poundages in 10 exercises of your choice) - in giant sets fashion (with 5 seconds rest between 2 exercises)...
You (whoever) maxout on whatever exercise...take necessary break to attempt NEXT exercise and maxout on that one...than the next...etc....

And after you complete your ten best lifts (YES - it can be for same muscle or for various musce groups) - I'll do exact weight but DOUBLE the reps and complete giant set of all ten exercises you choose - with only 5 seconds break in between...

New challenge...Sounds interesting?

[kyomu]

A question. You use forced reps during your famous giant set?

[pumpster]

you need to do more sets and add weight. you dont need to limit yourself to the exercises you mention. but you shouldnt let lactic acid dictate too much...sure have a good pace thru the workout but db laterals with 10lb dumbbells?

better to do 4-5 straight sets with more weight.

if you calculate lbs lifted per time unit (no...not talking about lifting 5lb db for 1000 reps) you can lift a whole lot more with reg straight sets without forced reps (allows you to do more sets)   compared to the things milos are doing.

east german scientist showed the need for loading already back in the 60s

as a bodybuilder do shit load of sets and avoid failure on most sets. (within reason!!)

Gotta love the way this arrogant turd "slaveboy" has it all figured out when in reality all he's got is his own unproven theory that he talks about as if it's carved in stone. If he was smarter, he'd frame it as no more than an opinion; that would take some humility though. LOL

[pumpster]

i want to see an exclusively milos trained bber factor in a mr o posedown.

sorry, aint gunna happen doing jane fonda type workouts.

milos keeps challenging critics with the old, "last through one of my workouts." bullshit.

i know milos would not last 1 round with a 150lb pro fighter or survive a marathon (a bit of vomiting would be the least of his problems). does that mean milos is a pussy?

obviously not, but it is exactly the same thing when referring to training.

it is not some test of manhood or toughness, it is simply a means to build muscle tissue and strength and the K.I.S.S principle seemed to work fine for 8 time mr o, ronnie coleman.

how many olympia's did you win again milos? 

I give Milos full credit for coming on here while correctly ignoring the usual group of arrogant getbig dickheads who think they know better.

[pumpster]

Ok, how about this...I did this last night (not NEARLY as hard as Milos' stuff, but might be a good example):

laterals with no time in between sets (drop weight, pick up new weight, go).
--nice warm up w/ stretching and very light stretching pullovers
--Started with my "sloppy" near max of 45lbs for 8 (each 8th rep is forced for each and every set...sometimes 7th or 6th as well)
--40 for 8
--35 for 8
--30 for 8
--27.5 for 8
--25 for 8
--22.5 for 8
--20 for 8
--17.5 for 8
--15 for 8
--12.5 for 8-ish (here's where I look really stupid - hardly being able to move 12.5lbs - using mad body english to get it up)
--10 for...well, I just held it at arms length and moved it around for a couple seconds...sometimes I'll do 7.5lbs and 5lbs, but was too tired last night.
--then went on to do some shoulder presses and other stuff...same technique but not as many sets cuz I'm dead already.

So I started with my max weight.
Ended with pussy weight I could barely do.
Basically doing what you say to do (a high load movement - 45's at start). AND doing what Milos says he's doing (high volume, failure on each set and doing pussy weights).

imo, this is awesome and makes my body feel an amazing runners-high, pump, and I grow doing this.

So, why is this wrong?
It's wonderful.

Gee, maybe some of the usual getbig tough guys on here ain't so smart after all, dismissing it from behind the safety of their keyboards without really knowing anything. hahaahahahahahahahah

[RUDE BUOY]

How the hell do you accomplish Giant Sets these days with gyms as crowded as they are nowadays, forcing you to wait for your turn with the equipment?    Maybe if you had your own private gym, otherwise, no friggin' way.

fucken eh brotha i gotta wait my turn for an incline and flat bench let alone doing all that

[slaveboy1980]

i want to see an exclusively milos trained bber factor in a mr o posedown.

sorry, aint gunna happen doing jane fonda type workouts.

milos keeps challenging critics with the old, "last through one of my workouts." bullshit.

i know milos would not last 1 round with a 150lb pro fighter or survive a marathon (a bit of vomiting would be the least of his problems). does that mean milos is a pussy?

obviously not, but it is exactly the same thing when referring to training.

it is not some test of manhood or toughness, it is simply a means to build muscle tissue and strength and the K.I.S.S principle seemed to work fine for 8 time mr o, ronnie coleman.

how many olympia's did you win again milos? 

exactly keep it simple. its you and the iron, its war. the ancient war between the mind and steel.

[FOR REAL]

Milos, I think it's awesome that you post on this website, despite all the criticism and negatively... So first thank you for that.


Secondly, would you recommend this type of training for someone who is not on steroids? So many magazines speak of "overtraining" yada yada... You obviously are pretty unconventional with this method of training...

So you have clients who are 100% natural, (no steroids, no GH, no insulin etc), train in this method?

I'll give it a try....

Thanks for the info in advance,
-Kevin

[slaveboy1980]

I give Milos full credit for coming on here while correctly ignoring the usual group of arrogant getbig dickheads who think they know better.

lol your belong to the same group, so dont feel lonely. 

[EL Mariachi]

that type of workout will get you solid sphagetti-arms

[Quickerblade]

that type of workout will get you solid sphagetti-arms

thats funny, that's all you eat you carbed up fat girl

[BEAST 8692]

Can't really remember....I have to count all these sets and reps...so I can't confuse myself with such a difficult question: "how many Olympia's did I win?"...
Maybe someone should help me and find statistics from the Olympia...I think I qualified for 10 consecutive times WHEN I WAS COMPETING ( each and every year in the hardest decade of the century...)

But, besides the point - is Mr. Olympia winner the best training, nutritional, posing...etc expert just by winning the title?

For some of you that don't see the forrest from the tree - try to LOOK and maybe you will SEE - if you know what you are looking for...
Until than - GO HEAVY OR GO HOME (the only way to train )

Now - how about if I do your ten best lifts (your maximal poundages in 10 exercises of your choice) - in giant sets fashion (with 5 seconds rest between 2 exercises)...
You (whoever) maxout on whatever exercise...take necessary break to attempt NEXT exercise and maxout on that one...than the next...etc....

And after you complete your ten best lifts (YES - it can be for same muscle or for various musce groups) - I'll do exact weight but DOUBLE the reps and complete giant set of all ten exercises you choose - with only 5 seconds break in between...

New challenge...Sounds interesting?

to pumpy and all the other members of the sarcev cheerleading squad, i'm sure milos is quite capable of defending himself.

a little hint: i seriously doubt that he comes to get big to get his ass kissed.

to milos, how many olympia's did you win? well, the simple answer would have been none.

you might have misunderstood my point, that being,

RONNIE WON 8 STRAIGHT AND HE TRAINS HEAVY

there, does that make it clear for you?

the way you dismiss heavy training as inferior (to your method) is extremely arrogant seeing as you have NOTHING in the way of proof to refute it.

you simply exclaim that your jane fonda type work out is more effective but you can't give me a single example of it's success over the tried and true methods ie

ronnie - heavy
dorian - heavy
joe bloggs - milos trained

are you getting my point yet or do we need a croation interpreter to explain it to you?

[indestructiblepride]

I THOUGHT MILOSH WAS SERBIAN , WHY R U SAYIN HE NEEDS A CROATIAN INTERPRETER?

[Quickerblade]

New challenge...Sounds interesting?

Hows luke wood feeling milos?

[slaveboy1980]

Ok, how about this...I did this last night (not NEARLY as hard as Milos' stuff, but might be a good example):

laterals with no time in between sets (drop weight, pick up new weight, go).
--nice warm up w/ stretching and very light stretching pullovers
--Started with my "sloppy" near max of 45lbs for 8 (each 8th rep is forced for each and every set...sometimes 7th or 6th as well)
--40 for 8
--35 for 8
--30 for 8
--27.5 for 8
--25 for 8
--22.5 for 8
--20 for 8
--17.5 for 8
--15 for 8
--12.5 for 8-ish (here's where I look really stupid - hardly being able to move 12.5lbs - using mad body english to get it up)
--10 for...well, I just held it at arms length and moved it around for a couple seconds...sometimes I'll do 7.5lbs and 5lbs, but was too tired last night.
--then went on to do some shoulder presses and other stuff...same technique but not as many sets cuz I'm dead already.

So I started with my max weight.
Ended with pussy weight I could barely do.
Basically doing what you say to do (a high load movement - 45's at start). AND doing what Milos says he's doing (high volume, failure on each set and doing pussy weights).

imo, this is awesome and makes my body feel an amazing runners-high, pump, and I grow doing this.

So, why is this wrong?
It's wonderful.

good that you had a fun workout and that it felt good for you..but i doubt you will be doing this kind of workout every shoulder workout , the last few sets burned like hell im sure but i doubt they will lead to alot of extra muscle building.(loading minimal at this point eventho it burns like hell)....also you didnt specify the other stuff you did. also very hard to track progression using the workout you did.

next time try to do strict 6x8-12  laterals (with 30-35s or something) same weight thru all the sets. then do some kind of presses for 5-6sets with same weight (alittle less than you use normally for shoulder press....but you will do more sets with the weight..so in the end loading will be superior still) thru all the sets (1-2 sets before that to get into the movement eventho your shoulders are warmed up from prev exercise)
then do same thing with you fav rear delt movement.
avoid failure for the most part..only last set should be to failure or very close to failure. no drop sets, no forced reps..

also you have misunderstood what kind of training i was talking about..im talking about 15-20 sets body part not going to failure on most sets and avoiding failure most of the time..and no forced reps or drop sets (only during briet periods of time). to be honest its nothing revolutionary....gironda talked about this kind of training...in my opinion one of the few things he was correct about.

[slaveboy1980]

Last night I did the same thing as shown in this post: http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=131450.msg1867701#msg1867701

Immediately after I did seated dumbell presses:
50x12
55x10
60x8 then paused and did 4 more

Then:
smith machine presses - 4 more sets (2 full extension, 2 partial to cut out tricep usage)

Then:
standing barbell presses - 4 weird sets: I'd do 8-12, set it down for a second, and do 4-8 more.

Then:
the rear-delt ones where you put your forehead on a seat - 4 sets

All done within an hour. So fairly fast.

..then triceps

But I do go to failure on each set. Forced reps on all of them. Negatives on smith machine and standing barbell presses...and some negatives on the dumbell presses.

----Ok, but I didn't read what Milos as saying that his sets don't go to failure, do forced reps, drop sets and only does 15-20 reps.
I read that he does do all that, and typically uses 8-12 reps because you physically can't do more after going to failure, forced reps and perhaps negatives.

So there is apparently a breakdown in the interpretation of what Milos is saying.

Milos, with your Hyde routine for example, are you using:
--forced reps
--negatives
--sets to failure
--reps between 8-12
--drop-sets (I don't really count this as being a factor since it's just another method, not specifically a measurement of intensity like forced reps or negatives)

-----
I just re-read your second paragraph...which sorta contradicts your last paragraph. In the second, you advise me to use strict movements and no failure/forced till the very last set, and lots and lots of sets. Isn't that exactly what you are saying Milos teaches? Strict movements, no failure/forced reps, lots of sets with light weight?
So according to your second and third paragraphs, the only difference between your training style and (what you say is) Milos' training style is that you'd use 8-12 reps, while he's using 15-20 reps. Not much of a difference...but I still think Milos does use forced reps, etc...(as I asked him above for clarification).

aside: I've tried the strict laterals and they don't do much for me. Same with not going to failure or forced reps. Turns into a soft-boiled egg workout and I join the ranks of the weekend warriors and bench/bis crowd who never progress.

no he does loads of drop sets etc...which means you are lifting a large part of the workout at weights that are alot less than you could handle. =minimal loading...

do straight sets with higher weights, avoid failure and drop sets (most of the time).thus enabling you to do more sets (=more loading)

as for reps do the old 6-12 for the most part. (nothing new there)

[slaveboy1980]

Oh.

Ok I see.

Either way. I like how I've been doing it...guess just goes to prove that you gotta figure out what works for you.

 

your smarter than my grandpa.

[slaveboy1980]

Did he invent the clothespin?

no but he weighed his balls on a food scale