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tu_holmes

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Image of Faith Vs. Science
« on: February 27, 2007, 06:39:42 PM »


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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2007, 08:41:39 AM »
that is true. but it doesnt do/show anything. your an atheist i assume. hows your faith?

i hate when people try to bring faith and science together like science can actually prove faith components. it cannot, and is in a seperate areana. however, they do offer some theories and mild explanations, but no hard concrete factually evidence. the creationists go to far with this shit. and disproving evolution isnt proving god, it just proves evolution doesnt have all the answers.
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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2007, 02:05:45 PM »
Quote from: usmokepole on February 28, 2007, 08:41:39 AM
that is true. but it doesnt do/show anything. your an atheist i assume. hows your faith?

i hate when people try to bring faith and science together like science can actually prove faith components. it cannot, and is in a seperate areana. however, they do offer some theories and mild explanations, but no hard concrete factually evidence. the creationists go to far with this shit. and disproving evolution isnt proving god, it just proves evolution doesnt have all the answers.

I neither claim to be an Atheist or anything else... I am very real that I wrestle with my beliefs on a daily basis...
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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2007, 02:31:50 PM »
i do some times too, but faith is all your going to have. in the end, just like everyone else.

if its a topic your interested in i would suggest wonder of the world by varghese, great book. its a dialouge between a atheist and theist. very good arguements. i always rep this book but it changed antony flews mind(worlds leading atheist) to becoming a deist.


anyone who beleives that this is all there is, is dead wrong imo.

theres just too much evidence to the contrary, and alot of spiritual experiences, wether they be psychadelics(DMT, interesting stuff) parapsychology, physics etc all have a common theme. im not saying there has to be a god looking after us, i dont beleive that, but there is more to life then we know. for instance if string theory or multiverse are right, we are only a slice of reality and other dimensions exist.

shits crazy once you read alot of material.

heres a link to the book if your interested.
http://www.amazon.com/Wonder-World-Journey-Modern-Science/dp/0972347313
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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2007, 08:42:22 PM »
Quote from: tu_holmes on February 28, 2007, 02:05:45 PM
I neither claim to be an Atheist or anything else... I am very real that I wrestle with my beliefs on a daily basis...


well it safe to say that anything on this side of AD was ripped off from another religion...

http://www.kxol.com.au/ct.htm

right now we can only go back as far as the sumerians...These people from over 6000 years ago have alot of the same stories in the old testament...I think its a start to question any religion that has "borrowed" from the Ancient Surmerians...Then go from there...
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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2007, 06:17:20 AM »
christianity is based on pagen beleifs and teaches the opposite of alot of the things jesus taught. ill get some of that info, its interesting.
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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2007, 04:53:07 AM »
pretty much sums up religion ;D

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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2007, 10:29:56 AM »
Here's one I'd like someone to answer that believes in creationism.

Why did God choose Earth? Almighty as God is he could have made us flame proof enough to live on Mercury, or weatherproof enough to live on Pluto. Same with all the animals and plant life. It is obvious that LIFE does not exist on this planets, but is it because it was chosen?

Science has enough evidence that lifeforms on Earth today derived from other species.
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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2007, 11:14:09 AM »
Job 11:7
"Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty?"

Psalm 53:1
The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."
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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2007, 03:31:11 PM »
Quote from: Oldschool Flip on March 07, 2007, 10:29:56 AM
Here's one I'd like someone to answer that believes in creationism.

Why did God choose Earth? Almighty as God is he could have made us flame proof enough to live on Mercury, or weatherproof enough to live on Pluto. Same with all the animals and plant life. It is obvious that LIFE does not exist on this planets, but is it because it was chosen?

Science has enough evidence that lifeforms on Earth today derived from other species.

i dont beleive in creationism, but your question is a tautology that really isnt answerable. i mean, if you were living on mercury because you needed high temp, you would then ask, why mercury? why not earth right.


life almost has to exist on other planets based on the simple game of stats. maybe not intelligent life, but life.
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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2007, 04:16:22 PM »
Quote from: loco on March 08, 2007, 11:14:09 AM
Job 11:7
"Can you fathom the mysteries of God? Can you probe the limits of the Almighty?"

Psalm 53:1
The fool says in his heart, "There is no God."
These are great quotes to use when the Bible has NO answer. The men that wrote it knew this.
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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2007, 04:19:29 PM »


man i was gonna start a tread about '' creation or evolution '' i'm sure it's been done before......

looks like your on the right track  :)

as for myself i believe in....... logic
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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2007, 02:08:36 PM »
Their still could be a God who created all energy but didn't create us...Something else could have put energy together in a way to create "US"...
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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2007, 02:26:11 PM »
Quote from: Wombat on March 12, 2007, 02:08:36 PM
Their still could be a God who created all energy but didn't create us...Something else could have put energy together in a way to create "US"...

how is that logical? explain what you mean if you would
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Re: Image of Faith Vs. Science
« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2007, 08:21:04 PM »
Quote from: usmokepole on March 13, 2007, 02:26:11 PM
how is that logical? explain what you mean if you would

if their is an infinite amount of possibilities of what can be done with raw energy...Then the creator of such energy could not possibly forsee all outcomes because they would never stop...
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