Countries that allow homosexual people to serve openly in thier military

[militarymuscle69]

What? No Love? I can't imagine why... I'm quite even keeled... I just tend to not like Bush and his "Cronies".

It was not always this way... I voted for the guy in 2K... I just thought he was the best for the job at the time. I feel that my thoughts were incorrect though. Hindsight being 20/20 and all that.

I really think in the long run he will go down as a good president that stood up for our freedom. I watched parts of a thing on Churchill last night and it was crazy the things he went through when he called Hitler a psycho.

[tu_holmes]

I really think in the long run he will go down as a good president that stood up for our freedom. I watched parts of a thing on Churchill last night and it was crazy the things he went through when he called Hitler a psycho.

The difference is that Hitler had the opportunity to prove him right I suppose.

I don't think anyone will ever "defend" Saddam, but it's also very difficult to defend our fight in Iraq.

I myself would have been perfectly ok if Bush stood up, looked me in the eye, and said "We need oil... Iraq has a ton and we can take it, and we are!"

While I know the international community wouldn't have liked it... I certainly would have been ok with hearing... as long as he said "And we'll get gasoline down to a buck a gallon when we do".

I'd have supported gassing damn near anyone then.

[militarymuscle69]

The difference is that Hitler had the opportunity to prove him right I suppose.

I don't think anyone will ever "defend" Saddam, but it's also very difficult to defend our fight in Iraq.

I myself would have been perfectly ok if Bush stood up, looked me in the eye, and said "We need oil... Iraq has a ton and we can take it, and we are!"

While I know the international community wouldn't have liked it... I certainly would have been ok with hearing... as long as he said "And we'll get gasoline down to a buck a gallon when we do".

I'd have supported gassing damn near anyone then.

You really feel that the war has nothing to do with the larger war on terror?

[tu_holmes]

You really feel that the war has nothing to do with the larger war on terror?

In Iraq... truly... no.

Perhaps I'm being silly, or naive or whatever... but I do not believe our fighting in Iraq is having an impact on terror.

That's not to say that the idea behind it was not to help stop terror... I just don't believe it's really had an impact to do so.

[OzmO]

In Iraq... truly... no.

Perhaps I'm being silly, or naive or whatever... but I do not believe our fighting in Iraq is having an impact on terror.

That's not to say that the idea behind it was not to help stop terror... I just don't believe it's really had an impact to do so.

Our involvement in Iraq has only inceased terror there. 

[OzmO]

Our involvement in Iraq has only inceased terror there and else where. 

[militarymuscle69]

Our involvement in Iraq has only inceased terror there. 

It hasn't increased Terror, it has allowed a civil war to happen that has been brewing for centuries. Once they get their aggression out and settle down they will join Japan and Germany as countries we turned around.

[OzmO]

It hasn't increased Terror, it has allowed a civil war to happen that has been brewing for centuries. Once they get their aggression out and settle down they will join Japan and Germany as countries we turned around.

umm no, 

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/04/26/AR2005042601623.html

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1880275,00.html

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/3451239.stm

you can call it what you want.  IED's all that stuff, make Iraq a much more dangerous place and as a result of our invasion terror has increased.