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Either I'm gonna do GVT, just add power moves or switch to a football style training for quicker gains.  Possibly the Milos style...

Additions to workout and things removed:

Added:
Back-Cleans, snatches, Hyperextensions
Delts-High Pulls
Quads: Single Leg Squats (suggested by Mr. I)
Triceps: Skullcrushers

Removed:
Back: Deads, Pulldowns (just going balls out with pullups now, front and rear)
Delts-Laterals
Biceps: BB curls
Triceps: Overhead ext

Going back to basics.
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Re: Thinking about switching some things up...please give feedback
« Reply #1 on: April 08, 2007, 11:08:30 PM »
Why remove BB curls?  This is a staple exercize for power if done properly (also for mass of course).  If not that, then you could throw in some heavy hammer curls.

Since you remove deads, why not add rack pulls?  I'm not talking about 315 for sets of 10 (easy stuff), I'm talking 650-700lb range, or whatever is heavy for you at this point in your training.

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Re: Thinking about switching some things up...please give feedback
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2007, 01:32:45 PM »
I only removed them because I think front delts take over too much.  I am doing heavy hammer curls and love the pumps.  I could add BB curls in maybe after a pre-exhaust, but then again I do chest before BB curls now so maybe it won't matter.

As for deads, I tweaked my sciatic so deads and rack deads are out for a while. For some reason cleans don't bother me, though it could aggravate it more.  We'll see how I feel this week.  I appreciate your advice and I think rack pulls might be the better choice because having long legs does not make the movement easy, although I have maxed at 500 for my PR.
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Re: Thinking about switching some things up...please give feedback
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2007, 01:38:04 PM »
Either I'm gonna do GVT, just add power moves or switch to a football style training for quicker gains.  Possibly the Milos style...

Additions to workout and things removed:

Added:
Back-Cleans, snatches, Hyperextensions
Delts-High Pulls
Quads: Single Leg Squats (suggested by Mr. I)
Triceps: Skullcrushers

Removed:
Back: Deads, Pulldowns (just going balls out with pullups now, front and rear)
Delts-Laterals
Biceps: BB curls
Triceps: Overhead ext

Going back to basics.
i just did a lighter second leg day yesterday and incorporated Milos style giant set of bb squat/bb front squat/leg press/hack squat yesterday, i did three go arounds and i couldn't believe the pain, pump and burn, i was sweating buckets, i did the same type of thing today for biceps.

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Re: Thinking about switching some things up...please give feedback
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2007, 02:40:36 PM »
Haha. I did a giant set for biceps today after training back.  Incline supinated DB curls, standing alternate curls, cable curls, strict barbell curls...I did it twice...no way i was doing it a third time.   :-X

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Re: Thinking about switching some things up...please give feedback
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2007, 03:49:54 PM »
Haha. I did a giant set for biceps today after training back.  Incline supinated DB curls, standing alternate curls, cable curls, strict barbell curls...I did it twice...no way i was doing it a third time.   :-X
it's insane isn't it? i had to use a 30 pound db for one arm preachers for 10 reps, 80 pound barbell for bb curls for 10 reps, 35 pound db's for alternate db curls for 10 reps and 90 pounds on machine preachers for 10 but my arms felt like they were going to explode, my appetite is through the roof as well.

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Re: Thinking about switching some things up...please give feedback
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2007, 04:08:58 PM »
by Ronnie Coleman| What is your favorite shock routine?

My shock workouts are performed in giant-set fashion.

For example, for triceps, I pick a giant set of four exercises and hit them almost nonstop, three giant sets with very little rest. That's 12 total sets. The only pause I may take (not always) is after each giant set; even then, only for a few seconds, to shake out my arms.

Neither do I use typical giant-set "pump" weight. I always go heavy. Right from the start of the set, my triceps pry away like a car jack to get that weight up there, so when I reach rep nine or 10, they're stone hard from the pump. That tells me I'm almost there, so I grind out two, three, sometimes five more reps, then immediately start another 12- to 15-rep set for the next exercise, again heavy, pressurizing the blood even tighter and deeper into my triceps, so the knotting twisting pain of the pump builds unbearably. You learn to love it.


My triceps shock workout immediately follows my chest workout, so that my triceps are prepumped and thus able to reach their full blood capacity quicker. It also means only one trip to the gym that day, which avoids the lactic acid buildup before a second workout.

Another thing: shock your triceps twice a week, to keep that pump in there, and change the exercise order each time.



RONNIE COLEMAN'S FAVORITE TRICEPS SHOCK WORKOUT

EXERCISE                            SETS  REPS

Seated one-arm dumbbell extensions  3     12-15
Seated two-arm dumbbell extensions  3     12-15
V-bar cable pushdowns                    3     12-15
Lying cambered-bar extensions          3     12-15


NOTE: The entire workout consists of 3 giants sets, virtually nonstop.

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Re: Thinking about switching some things up...please give feedback
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2007, 01:14:07 PM »
it's insane isn't it? i had to use a 30 pound db for one arm preachers for 10 reps, 80 pound barbell for bb curls for 10 reps, 35 pound db's for alternate db curls for 10 reps and 90 pounds on machine preachers for 10 but my arms felt like they were going to explode, my appetite is through the roof as well.

It is insane, my biceps are killing me today...they have got worse after i trained chest an hour or so ago...

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Re: Thinking about switching some things up...please give feedback
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2007, 02:39:18 PM »
Just gonna do supersets today and if I can do giant sets (with space permitted) I will do them.
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