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training chest around a bad elbow
« on: June 23, 2007, 07:44:31 PM »
hey guys
I was wondering, if any of you guys have had a really bad elbow.  I don't know dhoat it got some bad. but after doing db shoulder wit 40s. i already pre exhaused with side laterals and bent laterals. I trained around arms yesterday using machines and light weight DB's.  I'm set do hit chest next, and theres no way that doing pressing  will hepl the elbow problem. my current routine is
incline press
DB press
weighted dips
DB prullovers

I think that I'm thinking about doing
incline press
flat flyes
incline flyes
cable crossovers

I know, I'm against doing flyes but theres no way that I  trust  my elbow from not faluring on me.

you guys have any good ideas about working around some bad elbow?? I take joint support also. but it hasnt be shown to work on humens.

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Re: training chest around a bad elbow
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2007, 10:16:54 PM »
Maybe you should lay off the pressing movements and tricep work until you had it looked at by a doctor?

Is the "failure" from pain, weakness, numbness, fatigue, or a biomechanical problem?

Is it just pressing (tricep) or is elbow flexion involved as well? If bi's are ok, just do pec dec/cable crossovers until you get it checked out.

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Re: training chest around a bad elbow
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2007, 10:33:35 PM »
I get the most elbow pain from tricep training. sometimes during pressing movements moves. I do get a sharp pain in the elbo. but it goes away. shoulder presses are the ones that kill my shoulders, bb or dbs. I haven't tryed a pressing movement since getting the pain on thursday. I have a hard time moving my arm  up sometimes.

I'm not going to see a doctor b/c they're tell me to take an ati-inflanatary and do R.IC.E.

I'm thinking about doing the Branch Warren warm up. light weight side laterals/front raise/shoulder press/rotalor cuff roalotors

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Re: training chest around a bad elbow
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2007, 05:45:34 PM »
Get some Cissus.

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Re: training chest around a bad elbow
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2007, 09:30:26 PM »
I'm not going to see a doctor b/c they're tell me to take an ati-inflanatary and do R.IC.E.

I'm thinking about doing the Branch Warren warm up. light weight side laterals/front raise/shoulder press/rotalor cuff roalotors

Yeah, this is fucking genius.  Don't listen to an MD, listen to Branch Warren!  Stupid.

BB's no NOTHING about injuries accept how to work around them or deal with them (painkillers), both not being favorable in my mind.

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Re: training chest around a bad elbow
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2007, 10:04:58 PM »
Agreed, a week off will not kill you in fact it will probably help you - heck take 2 weeks off and get over all your overtrainingn and little injuries in one hit.

Trust me on this.

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Re: training chest around a bad elbow
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2007, 08:07:57 AM »
A bad elbow is a sign of overtraining.

Here's my suggestion:

First: Get a non-prescription anti-inflammatory. Such as ibuprofen, or diklofenak. Eat and treat with that for 7-10 days. Also get it as a topical cream.

Secondly:During the first 5-6 days, don't lift at all. The rest of the time, don't do any pressing movements, such as DB presses, benchpress, or equal.

Also: widen the grip on the squat slightly, as well as us a false grip; ie put the thump on the same side as the rest of the fingers, this will relieve pressure from the elbows when you squat. And no. No squatting during the recovery period either.

And most importantly: while recovering, go over your training protocol, and reassess the training volume. Make the necessary changes so you won't end up with this problem again.

Meaning: You will likely have to cut down on some sets.

This injury is a sign that you're not training optimally, and with a little less volume, you will probably make better gains.

Why not post the current routine bro?

Or. It could be something as simple as that you're not holding a false grip on the squat. Nevertheless, I suggest you post your routine, and also to take a break and treat the elbow to cure it fast.

That way it won't become chronic.

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