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How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« on: August 06, 2007, 02:44:20 PM »
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Is there a process?  a Judgement? 

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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2007, 03:16:01 PM »
... with a bang!

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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2007, 06:26:14 AM »
I found this in a book by Josh McDowell:

Islam teaches a salvation by works:  "They whose balances shall be heavy shall be blest.  But they whose balances shall be light, they shall lose their soul, abiding in hell forever" (Sura 13:102-140).  Thus if the scale tips in favor of good works, the Muslim will reach paradise, but if this not be the case he will be banished to hell.

Muslims believe concerning the Day of Judgment:

All men will be judged according to their works.

[Good] Muslims will enter paradise (though some must first be purged for their sins); non-Muslims will be condemned forever to a pit of fire.
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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2007, 06:41:34 AM »
I found this in a book by Josh McDowell:

Islam teaches a salvation by works:  "They whose balances shall be heavy shall be blest.  But they whose balances shall be light, they shall lose their soul, abiding in hell forever" (Sura 13:102-140).  Thus if the scale tips in favor of good works, the Muslim will reach paradise, but if this not be the case he will be banished to hell.

Muslims believe concerning the Day of Judgment:

All men will be judged according to their works.

[Good] Muslims will enter paradise (though some must first be purged for their sins); non-Muslims will be condemned forever to a pit of fire.
Thanks for the post, Stella!   :)

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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2007, 07:34:49 AM »
Ah yes, Josh McDowell, that eminent scholar of Islam and Koranic expert ;)

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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2007, 11:30:58 AM »
Thanks for the post, Stella!   :)
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Ah yes, Josh McDowell, that eminent scholar of Islam and Koranic expert ;)
That's great!  I didn't even know that and I quoted some of his stuff :D














Oh, you were being facetious? ;D

If Josh McDowell is incorrect what is the Muslim belief is for route to heaven?
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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2007, 11:58:36 AM »
What is the Christian belief for the route to heaven? There are almost as many of them as there are Christian denominations, and that's alot.

At the simplest level, it's some combination of (Muslim) faith and "good works" (to other Muslims).

Of course, if you actually read the Koran and learn Islamic theology, killing a few Jews, Christians, and infidels helps a great deal.

I wish I remembered the sura and number of that verse that says that the day will come when the Jew (descendent of apes and pigs) will hide behind a tree, and the tree will speak "O Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him." (or very similar words to that effect)

This is the stuff "holy" books are made of.

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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2007, 12:29:57 PM »
What is the Christian belief for the route to heaven?

Faith in Jesus.   What Christian doesn't believe this?

I wish I remembered the sura and number of that verse that says that the day will come when the Jew (descendent of apes and pigs) will hide behind a tree, and the tree will speak "O Muslim, servant of Allah, there is a Jew hiding behind me, come and kill him." (or very similar words to that effect)

Narrated Abdullah bin Umar:
I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The Jews will fight with you, and you will be given victory over them so that a stone will say, ‘O Muslim! There is a Jew behind me; kill him!’"
(Sahih Al-Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 56, Number 791; see also Book 52, Number 177)

Narrated AbuHurayrah:
Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) said: The Last Hour would not come unless the Muslims will fight against the Jews and the Muslims would kill them until the Jews would hide themselves behind a stone or a tree and a stone or a tree would say: Muslim, or the servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me; come and kill him
(Sahih Muslim, Book 041, Number 6985)

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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2007, 09:46:58 PM »
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Is there a process?  a Judgement? 

There are many process , im going to list some for you:

1.- Learn how to pilot an airplane and then crash it into a big tower
2.- Attach a bomb to the body and run against a place full of kids, screaming ALLAHU AK BAR
3.- Request a visa to USA in the easy way: Drive a truck into an embassy and blow yourself

There are many, CNN is passing them every day rofl


Was this a serious question lol?
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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2007, 10:30:03 PM »
... with a bang!

Bad columbusdude!  >:(

You're a total shit!!! ...not so much for making the comment, ...but from eliciting a laugh out of me for it!
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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2007, 10:39:06 PM »
Well, it's true :)

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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2007, 10:33:55 AM »
If the subtext behind the question is "How can someone blow up innocent people and go to Heaven?" the answer is complicated. Islam doesn't conceptualize hell as a permanant condition. So... even if a suicide bomber went to hell he/she'd eventually go to heaven after pennance. Not sure about them getting virgins and so on.

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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2007, 10:39:42 AM »
There are many process , im going to list some for you:

1.- Learn how to pilot an airplane and then crash it into a big tower
2.- Attach a bomb to the body and run against a place full of kids, screaming ALLAHU AK BAR
3.- Request a visa to USA in the easy way: Drive a truck into an embassy and blow yourself

There are many, CNN is passing them every day rofl


Was this a serious question lol?

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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2007, 11:29:05 AM »
i would post the article but it's looonnnngg.... funny read though

http://fray.slate.com/discuss/forums/post/191268.aspx

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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2007, 08:10:13 AM »
carpe` vaginum!

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Re: How does a Muslim go to Heaven?
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2007, 08:13:38 AM »
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Is there a process?  a Judgement? 

from my understanding...unless ya commit an unforgivable sin (murder..rape...i forget the others..those r sins never forvigen) every muslim eventually makes it to heaven..

however not every non muslim goes to hell....that eskimo living a good life but devoid of any religion..gets to go to heaven...

apparently there r 2 angles that sit on each persons shoulders..1 writes all your bad thoughts (deeds) and the other all the good ones and they get weighed against eachother on judgement day..
carpe` vaginum!