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Looking for tips/advice on a routine/excercises *LONG*
« on: November 04, 2007, 07:15:45 PM »
OK, to start it off I'm 19 years old, 6 foot and 162 lbs. I've been lifting since January 07, so its been about 9 months. Started out with nothing but weight gainer, was about 140lbs and maybe an inch shorter than I am now. Started out doin Chest/Tris, Back/Bis, Legs, Shoulders. And of course gains were rapid as any beginners first month would be. Started using NO-Explode along with the weight gainer. At the start I was using GNC weight gainer then switched over to Mega Mass 4000 for a little bit. Gains were consistent, physique was rapidly improving etc etc. Then started using True Mass with my N0 explode. After about 2 months I switched over to 1 body part a day. So it would be Mon-Chest, Tues-Back,Wed-Legs,Thurs-Bis/Tris and Sat-Shoulders. wasnt always that exactly would switch days up sometimes. Then after about 6 months or so is when I the wall lol. I say it like that becuase Im still not really past it, although I have been lifting lazily lately, which is why Im here because its balls to the wall from here on out. So heres what my current routine looks like.

Mon-Chest:
*Note: I alternate weekly between DB and bar
DB week
Flat DB-55x8,60x8,65x6-8 depending,70x4
Incline DB-40x10,45x8,50x8
Decline DB-same as incline
Flies w/ DB-25x8,30x8,30x8

Bar week
Flatbench-115x8,135x8,145x8
Incline-95x8,105x8,110x6
No decline with bar
flies w/ db sam as above

Tues-Back:
Wide grip pullups-BWx8,BWx6,BWx4
Bent over rows w/dbs-40x8,45x8,50x8
Seated cable rows-50x8,62.5??x5,75x8

Wed-Legs:
Leg press-90x10,180x8,270x8,320x6
Leg curls-4x8,5x8,6x6 (single digit number system instead of weight)
seated calf raises-50x10,60x10,75x8,90x8
squats-135x8,155x8,185x6

Thurs-Bis/Tris:

Bis:
DB curl-25x8,30x8,35x6
Hammer Curl-25x8,30x6,35x4
Preacher Curls-63x8,73x8,83x6 (ez bar is 23 lbs i think)

Tris:
Skullcrushers-73x8,83x8,88x6
Pushdowns-90x8,100x8,110x6
Dips-BWx10,BW+15x10,BW+25x8
Overhead tricep push-45x8,50x8,55x8

Saturday-Shoulders:

Seated db military press-35x8,40x8,45x8
delt raises-35x8,35x8,45x8
shrugs-60x8,65x8,70x6 (dbs)


Im looking for tips/advice on what to add/remove, maybe even rearrange my routine, whatever is necessary for gains. Im going mainly for look then strength/mass. Im currently takin 2 true mass shakes a day, one in the morning and one after lifting. About to pick up Superpump 250 and possibly sizeon as well, would you guys recommend this stack, or do you have a better one? Any supplements you recommend for me to try? Here are a couple pics for you guys to get an idea of what my body looks like as is and what I could use improvement on. http://community.webshots.com/album/561322702oPzhGT .. Thats the album with the 5 pics. Thanks in advance!

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Re: Looking for tips/advice on a routine/excercises *LONG*
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2007, 07:48:51 PM »
OK, to start it off I'm 19 years old, 6 foot and 162 lbs. I've been lifting since January 07, so its been about 9 months. Started out with nothing but weight gainer, was about 140lbs and maybe an inch shorter than I am now. Started out doin Chest/Tris, Back/Bis, Legs, Shoulders. And of course gains were rapid as any beginners first month would be. Started using NO-Explode along with the weight gainer. At the start I was using GNC weight gainer then switched over to Mega Mass 4000 for a little bit. Gains were consistent, physique was rapidly improving etc etc. Then started using True Mass with my N0 explode. After about 2 months I switched over to 1 body part a day. So it would be Mon-Chest, Tues-Back,Wed-Legs,Thurs-Bis/Tris and Sat-Shoulders. wasnt always that exactly would switch days up sometimes. Then after about 6 months or so is when I the wall lol. I say it like that becuase Im still not really past it, although I have been lifting lazily lately, which is why Im here because its balls to the wall from here on out. So heres what my current routine looks like.

Mon-Chest:
*Note: I alternate weekly between DB and bar
DB week Stick with incline and Flat for a while. Build your base.  Include dips if you want but keep the reps where you are right now.  Drop the flyes right now.
Flat DB-55x8,60x8,65x6-8 depending,70x4
Incline DB-40x10,45x8,50x8
Decline DB-same as incline
Flies w/ DB-25x8,30x8,30x8

Bar week Same advice right now but you can use 5x5 scheme to your advantage.  Use the same weight each set for 5 reps and wehn you can do that, add 5 pounds total to the bar.  Drop the flyes for right now.
Flatbench-115x8,135x8,145x8
Incline-95x8,105x8,110x6
No decline with bar
flies w/ db sam as above

Tues-Back:
Wide grip pullups-BWx8,BWx6,BWx4 You need width so do more.  Set a goal of 50 reps and do as many sets until you get to that.  When that gets easy, add 10 reps and so on.
Bent over rows w/dbs-40x8,45x8,50x8 Add more sets for thickness.
Seated cable rows-50x8,62.5??x5,75x8 I'd replace this with a BB or Tbar row to pack on mass quicker.

Wed-Legs:
Leg press-90x10,180x8,270x8,320x6
Leg curls-4x8,5x8,6x6 (single digit number system instead of weight) Work on this more, by adding at least 3 more sets.
seated calf raises-50x10,60x10,75x8,90x8 Either drop this and add a standing raise or do them both.
squats-135x8,155x8,185x6 I would do these first or at least after leg press.  I would think a 5x5 or 6x6 scheme and drop leg press for a while.

Thurs-Bis/Tris:

Bis: Looks pretty good here. 
DB curl-25x8,30x8,35x6
Hammer Curl-25x8,30x6,35x4
Preacher Curls-63x8,73x8,83x6 (ez bar is 23 lbs i think)

Tris: Also good.
Skullcrushers-73x8,83x8,88x6
Pushdowns-90x8,100x8,110x6
Dips-BWx10,BW+15x10,BW+25x8
Overhead tricep push-45x8,50x8,55x8

Saturday-Shoulders:

Seated db military press-35x8,40x8,45x8
delt raises-35x8,35x8,45x8
shrugs-60x8,65x8,70x6 (dbs)


Im looking for tips/advice on what to add/remove, maybe even rearrange my routine, whatever is necessary for gains. Im going mainly for look then strength/mass. Im currently takin 2 true mass shakes a day, one in the morning and one after lifting. About to pick up Superpump 250 and possibly sizeon as well, would you guys recommend this stack, or do you have a better one? Any supplements you recommend for me to try? Here are a couple pics for you guys to get an idea of what my body looks like as is and what I could use improvement on. http://community.webshots.com/album/561322702oPzhGT .. Thats the album with the 5 pics. Thanks in advance!

First off, with supps (and I know from experience) don't piss away too much money.  Stick with the basics, aminos, Whey, and Carbs.  All else is really worthless and that is from the mouths of BBers I have spoken to directly.  Spend your money on food and shakes since you need to pack on muscle.  Carb shakes are good for calories you simply can't sit and eat.  Stick with the basics and they will make you grow.  It took me enough time to figure that out and I am growing better now.
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Re: Looking for tips/advice on a routine/excercises *LONG*
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2007, 08:01:12 PM »
Ok thanks, so since you didnt mention anything about my routine, im assuming 1 body part a day is best for what Im looking for?

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Re: Looking for tips/advice on a routine/excercises *LONG*
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2007, 08:04:21 PM »
Ok thanks, so since you didnt mention anything about my routine, im assuming 1 body part a day is best for what Im looking for?
no, at this stage you wanna be focusing on the core lifts and doing them frequently. Get on a fullbody routine or an upper/lower split.

HST(hypertrophy specific training), for example. You can get plenty of help setting it up from around here, but first read up on it:
http://www.hypertrophy-specific.com/hst_index.html
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Re: Looking for tips/advice on a routine/excercises *LONG*
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2007, 08:06:00 PM »
Ok thanks, so since you didnt mention anything about my routine, im assuming 1 body part a day is best for what Im looking for?
It's really dependent on what you have going.  Personally I only work out 4 days a week.  I'm not sure what your week looks like.

I do this:

Chest/Biceps
Back
Delts/Triceps
Legs
Rest
Rest
Rest

Certainly prioritize your weakest areas.

Like Haider and I said, stick to basics.  Add more exercises when more muscle is there.  Look at a football players lifting routine and you'll see what I mean.  Their low exercise variety and huge muscles say it all.
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Re: Looking for tips/advice on a routine/excercises *LONG*
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2007, 01:52:45 PM »
no, at this stage you wanna be focusing on the core lifts and doing them frequently. Get on a fullbody routine or an upper/lower split.


Agreed. Stick with the basics & try Something like this.

Mon- Upper body
Tue- Lower body
Wed Rest
Thur- Upper body
Fri - Lower body
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