Author Topic: Christianity:What's the point in praying for worldy matters? Divine Intervention  (Read 3166 times)

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see your not even readin my posts. just because we dont know doesnt mean god did it, this is called god of the gaps. its also called argument from ignorance, where because we dont know,you make up and explanation. we dont know much about death, and id like to read the reports about her conditions when she died, sorry a half wit story doesnt mean anything.

If you're that interested in what happened to Haley's mother, there ain't no anchor tied to your butt. Do some investigation and find out what the reports say. Plus, you're doing a classic case of flip-flopping here. One minute you're extolling all the virtues of science; the next, you're claiming "we don't know much about (fill-in-the-blank), to cover your still-unexplained lack of comfort with the prospect of an answered prayer, with regards to what happened to Marcus Haley's mother.

when we cant explain something, we keep looking and eventually we find the answer. for instance, we didnt know how lightning occured, if this was hundreds of years ago you would be saying, you cant explain lightning, where is your natural explanation. then we figure it out and your god disappears. science is littered with dead gods.

Unfortunately for atheists and skeptics, there one Deity that ain't in that alleged litter (and it the very One they want to kill, most of all) ;D. What you can't quite grasp is that natural explanations DO NOT negate supernatural intervention. As I said awhile back, the God of the supernatural is also the God of the natural. In other words, He holds the answers. You just now found the answer to something the Creator put in place long ago. Every scientific law and principle, used to "figure it out", comes from God's creation. Man certainly didn't develop them as he is bound by them (just like every other creature, and I stress, CREATURE, in this world).

no because these "prayers" occur in situations where its not obvious god helped, or what happened. ask god to cure and amputee, its an argument dawkins presented years ago. where ambiguity, and ignorance exists, there your god is, how convient.

And it's not obvious because of what? What does it take for something to become "obvious" that God's hand was involved? Some standards here would be nice. As for Dawkins' argument, it (like much of his wailings) is pointless. Were God to cure an amputee, Dawkins would do what he always does (and what you are doing now): Come up with some excuse as to why such was not a supernatural act or fall behind the old "We're still trying to figure it out" routine.

Besides, if we're products of evolution, then amputees should be able to "evolve" and get their limbs back. Oh, wait a minute! That supposedly takes "millions of years", how convenient.


if god can intervene and interfere with life it indicates that he made mistakes in his design, since he knew the future. use your brain please.

Try that again. He gave man the ability to make choices, right and wrong, and as such, man has been blessed and cursed by those choices.

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If you're that interested in what happened to Haley's mother, there ain't no anchor tied to your butt. Do some investigation and find out what the reports say. Plus, you're doing a classic case of flip-flopping here. One minute you're extolling all the virtues of science; the next, you're claiming "we don't know much about (fill-in-the-blank), to cover your still-unexplained lack of comfort with the prospect of an answered prayer, with regards to what happened to Marcus Haley's mother.

Unfortunately for atheists and skeptics, there one Deity that ain't in that alleged litter (and it the very One they want to kill, most of all) ;D. What you can't quite grasp is that natural explanations DO NOT negate supernatural intervention. As I said awhile back, the God of the supernatural is also the God of the natural. In other words, He holds the answers. You just now found the answer to something the Creator put in place long ago. Every scientific law and principle, used to "figure it out", comes from God's creation. Man certainly didn't develop them as he is bound by them (just like every other creature, and I stress, CREATURE, in this world).

And it's not obvious because of what? What does it take for something to become "obvious" that God's hand was involved? Some standards here would be nice. As for Dawkins' argument, it (like much of his wailings) is pointless. Were God to cure an amputee, Dawkins would do what he always does (and what you are doing now): Come up with some excuse as to why such was not a supernatural act or fall behind the old "We're still trying to figure it out" routine.

Besides, if we're products of evolution, then amputees should be able to "evolve" and get their limbs back. Oh, wait a minute! That supposedly takes "millions of years", how convenient.


Try that again. He gave man the ability to make choices, right and wrong, and as such, man has been blessed and cursed by those choices.

Some animals do grow limbs back; incidentally, you are a fanatical, fundy nutcase.
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If you're that interested in what happened to Haley's mother, there ain't no anchor tied to your butt. Do some investigation and find out what the reports say. Plus, you're doing a classic case of flip-flopping here. One minute you're extolling all the virtues of science; the next, you're claiming "we don't know much about (fill-in-the-blank), to cover your still-unexplained lack of comfort with the prospect of an answered prayer, with regards to what happened to Marcus Haley's mother.

Unfortunately for atheists and skeptics, there one Deity that ain't in that alleged litter (and it the very One they want to kill, most of all) ;D. What you can't quite grasp is that natural explanations DO NOT negate supernatural intervention. As I said awhile back, the God of the supernatural is also the God of the natural. In other words, He holds the answers. You just now found the answer to something the Creator put in place long ago. Every scientific law and principle, used to "figure it out", comes from God's creation. Man certainly didn't develop them as he is bound by them (just like every other creature, and I stress, CREATURE, in this world).

And it's not obvious because of what? What does it take for something to become "obvious" that God's hand was involved? Some standards here would be nice. As for Dawkins' argument, it (like much of his wailings) is pointless. Were God to cure an amputee, Dawkins would do what he always does (and what you are doing now): Come up with some excuse as to why such was not a supernatural act or fall behind the old "We're still trying to figure it out" routine.

Besides, if we're products of evolution, then amputees should be able to "evolve" and get their limbs back. Oh, wait a minute! That supposedly takes "millions of years", how convenient.


Try that again. He gave man the ability to make choices, right and wrong, and as such, man has been blessed and cursed by those choices.

"If you're that interested in what happened to Haley's mother, there ain't no anchor tied to your butt. Do some investigation and find out what the reports say. Plus, you're doing a classic case of flip-flopping here. One minute you're extolling all the virtues of science; the next, you're claiming "we don't know much about (fill-in-the-blank), to cover your still-unexplained lack of comfort with the prospect of an answered prayer, with regards to what happened to Marcus Haley's mother."

im not, people have been clinicallly dead in freezing rivers for hours and have been revived.

"Unfortunately for atheists and skeptics, there one Deity that ain't in that alleged litter (and it the very One they want to kill, most of all) ;D. What you can't quite grasp is that natural explanations DO NOT negate supernatural intervention. As I said awhile back, the God of the supernatural is also the God of the natural. In other words, He holds the answers. You just now found the answer to something the Creator put in place long ago. Every scientific law and principle, used to "figure it out", comes from God's creation. Man certainly didn't develop them as he is bound by them (just like every other creature, and I stress, CREATURE, in this world)."

proof? i also see that you have a nice little niche carved out where you can never be wrong here. he is the explanation for the natural and supernatural. ridiculous.

"Besides, if we're products of evolution, then amputees should be able to "evolve" and get their limbs back. Oh, wait a minute! That supposedly takes "millions of years", how convenient."

i honestly thought you had some knowledge before this statement, but this actually blew me back in my chair. its not even worth a cogent response. my god man read a book.