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How do you train for MMA
« on: November 23, 2007, 01:41:26 AM »
I do a lot of fight based style with strenght and conditioning training how do you guys train and how often does it work for you

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Re: How do you train for MMA
« Reply #1 on: November 25, 2007, 11:59:54 AM »
I do a lot of fight based style with strenght and conditioning training how do you guys train and how often does it work for you

wtf are you talking about, 'fight based style with strength and conditioning'?

if you mean that you wish to fight in an mma tournament, then you better already be very very good at one or more disciplines. after that, ideally you work with several coaches in different disciplines ie grappling (jujitsu), shoot wrestling, boxing, thai boxing, etc.

then asap you start sparring other fighters in each of those disciplines.

your trainers/head trainer will watch you and if he thinks you're good enough he may bring you to a manager.

manager will start matching you with other novices and, if you do well, he will look after you with several easier fights to build your confidence (big thing in fighting). on the other hand, if there is no potential he will feed you to the lions ie those that do have potential and you will become one of those easier fights (aka cannon fodder) to build someone with potential.

my advice: unless you are already very well skilled in one or more disciplines and have started at a young age, forget it, it's not for you, no matter how good you think you are there's a million guys just like you. hell, that fat useless fuck, squadfatter couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag but he is so deluded that he actually thinks he could take mosely or cotto in a street fight. i would so love to see that for a laugh.

anyway, there you have it. it really is a mug's game for the most part. the only guys making money from it are the extremely experienced and excellent fighters.

as i always say, you need to fight, fight, fight to be a good fighter. workouts in the gym, hitting bags and basically thinking your mike tyson won't do shit for you. in fact i'd bet that all you've accomplished by combining these in that environment is a substandard strength program and learning over and over how NOT to fight. so much so that if you went to a good trainer now, he'd be spending most of his/your time training you out of your shitty technique before he can start the basics of correct technique.

if you were meant to be a fighter you would be fighting. strength and conditioning training without skill first is just masturbation.

 

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Re: How do you train for MMA
« Reply #2 on: November 25, 2007, 12:34:11 PM »
Personally this is my routine - when not prepping for a fight.
Mon - 1st workout:1 mile run (8 minutes), Throw tires (10 back 10 front) up a 50ft hill, 5x2 minute heavy  bag rounds, 5x2 mintue rounds of Clinch striking on Bob (grappling dummy).
         2nd workout: 1 hour sparring/Muay Thai
         3rd workout: Back and Tri's - at least one hour

Tues: 1st workout: 20 minutes hard cardio (1 minute aerodyne sprint then run to the ring and do step up around the ring for 1 minute, and back to the aerodyne for 20 minutes...no rest), 5x2 minute rounds of shadow boxing with 5lbs dumbells standing on a tire, 5x2 minute rounds of GNP drills
         2nd workout: 1 hour sparring BJJ or wrestling
         3rd workout: Chest and Bi's

Wed: 1st workout: 2 mile run (16 minutes), 2x5 minute rounds of ring rope drills, 2x5 minute rounds double end bag, 2x5 minute GNP drills
        2nd workout: 1 hour Muay Thai sparring
       
Thurs: 1st workout: repeat monday
         2nd workout: repeat monday
         3rd workout: Shoulders
Fri: 1st workout: repeat Tuesday
     2nd workout: repeat tuesday
     3rd workout: Legs

Sat and sunday - lots of sex!

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Re: How do you train for MMA
« Reply #3 on: November 25, 2007, 08:16:50 PM »
find a school around you and sign up... usually everyschool even mma will still b heavly geared towards one discipline....... i.e. my school is geared alot towards ground game, but he still trains us in every other aspect, takedowns, boxing, and conditioning but most of the time is spent rolling..


to get experienced nothing beats joining a school and gettin in some spar time... once your trainer thinks your good enough he will invite you to join the full on mma class where you will compete in local events when he thinks your ready





just decide wich style you like first, b/c my school is highly geared in bjj, i also go to another school that is highly geared in standup.. i skip standup nights at my school and go to this one.


so you want to fight get to a mma/nhb geared school and see if you last even a month. if you get hooked just keep a cool head, no ego, and get in there and learn and train, it will all happen, dont listen to the guy that said you have to start young. we have guys that just started in there late 20s and are already fighting in local events. you may not b the next ufc greatest, but alot of us do this just for fun, me included ;)

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Re: How do you train for MMA
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2007, 08:47:29 PM »
wtf are you talking about, 'fight based style with strength and conditioning'?

if you mean that you wish to fight in an mma tournament, then you better already be very very good at one or more disciplines. after that, ideally you work with several coaches in different disciplines ie grappling (jujitsu), shoot wrestling, boxing, thai boxing, etc.

then asap you start sparring other fighters in each of those disciplines.

your trainers/head trainer will watch you and if he thinks you're good enough he may bring you to a manager.

manager will start matching you with other novices and, if you do well, he will look after you with several easier fights to build your confidence (big thing in fighting). on the other hand, if there is no potential he will feed you to the lions ie those that do have potential and you will become one of those easier fights (aka cannon fodder) to build someone with potential.

my advice: unless you are already very well skilled in one or more disciplines and have started at a young age, forget it, it's not for you, no matter how good you think you are there's a million guys just like you. hell, that fat useless fuck, squadfatter couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag but he is so deluded that he actually thinks he could take mosely or cotto in a street fight. i would so love to see that for a laugh.

anyway, there you have it. it really is a mug's game for the most part. the only guys making money from it are the extremely experienced and excellent fighters.

as i always say, you need to fight, fight, fight to be a good fighter. workouts in the gym, hitting bags and basically thinking your mike tyson won't do shit for you. in fact i'd bet that all you've accomplished by combining these in that environment is a substandard strength program and learning over and over how NOT to fight. so much so that if you went to a good trainer now, he'd be spending most of his/your time training you out of your shitty technique before he can start the basics of correct technique.

if you were meant to be a fighter you would be fighting. strength and conditioning training without skill first is just masturbation.

 

sorry if i got you wrong.

i assumed that you maybe meant, train to actually fight in mma bouts.

this is where it gets confusing for me and why i don't post on mma boards much. i really don't know what most of you guys are trying to do.

the above workout outlined by Nicrah is a fairly typical schedule for an amateur fighter, but what many on these boards don't realise is that the schedule outlined is purely for conditioning of an already skilled fighter. it will do NOTHING for preparing for a fight if you are not skilled.

there are many many different combinations of conditioning for a fight, depending on many variables eg. experience, fitness, how far out you are, recuperation, weight, sex, weaknesses/strengths, pro/am, etc etc etc.

for example, if you were a pro fighter, Nicrah's schedule would be inadequate. i know this is not his fight prep, but even off season there's nowhere near enough time spent on the mats and working strike techniques. in fact, if that's all the time he had, i would advise him to cut right back on conditioning work, save for an lsd eod, confine his strength work to the bare minimum and just compounds 2wice pw (short sessions) and spend the rest of his time rolling, technique drills and occasional spar. depending on fitness levels, begin conditioning (intervals, sprints, circuit, etc) work 6 - 10 weeks out.

pro mma fighters will do a much much higher volume of technique drills and rolling 6 days pw (about the same amount of time or more that joe public would a normal job) with strength and conditioning completely dependant on how far out and, again, that depends fighter to fighter.  

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Re: How do you train for MMA
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2007, 09:12:08 PM »
find a school around you and sign up... usually everyschool even mma will still b heavly geared towards one discipline....... i.e. my school is geared alot towards ground game, but he still trains us in every other aspect, takedowns, boxing, and conditioning but most of the time is spent rolling..


to get experienced nothing beats joining a school and gettin in some spar time... once your trainer thinks your good enough he will invite you to join the full on mma class where you will compete in local events when he thinks your ready





just decide wich style you like first, b/c my school is highly geared in bjj, i also go to another school that is highly geared in standup.. i skip standup nights at my school and go to this one.

so you want to fight get to a mma/nhb geared school and see if you last even a month. if you get hooked just keep a cool head, no ego, and get in there and learn and train, it will all happen, dont listen to the guy that said you have to start young. we have guys that just started in there late 20s and are already fighting in local events. you may not b the next ufc greatest, but alot of us do this just for fun, me included ;)

excellent advice for any fighter.

i obviously don't agree with you on the start young thing (i'm the guy who said...). my reasoning here is directed more at people thinking about making a living from pro mma, but i'm probably getting too far ahead of myself.

yes, by all means, if you wish to have a few tournaments/fight nights for the fun of it, go for it, but the simple fact is, if you aren't already experienced (in actual competitive fighting am/pro) and well grounded in at least one of the major disciplines by the time you're in your 20s then you are going to be seriously pushing shit up hill trying to make a career out of it. you better be someone like a kimbo or tank abott that is at least well seasoned in street fighting.

still, anything is possible and if someone reading this is the type of person that believes that sincerely, then i have no doubt that you will succeed.

just that there are a lot of deluded people out there that think that, just because they can make the bag rattle when they throw a left hook or roundhouse kick or have got a few basics in jujitsu, they can go and fight. those guys get stopped early if they're lucky.

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Re: How do you train for MMA
« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2007, 12:04:56 AM »
I train sub grappling/bjj twice a week.  Stand up once a week, and wrestling once a week.  Was doing judo until recently when I got to busy working. 

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Re: How do you train for MMA
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2007, 06:09:51 PM »
yes my remark about being old and starting was not applying to someone who wants to make a career out of it. but never the less dont give up, follow what you love, i enjoy it as fun.... nothing more, but who knows you might b a natural, pick up stuff fast and have that edge, and if you can win enough fights, become crowd favorite and start to pull crowds for cards you never know.....

but that is dream land lol


if your like me do it for fun on the side and just see where it takes you

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Re: How do you train for MMA
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2007, 10:54:24 AM »
i love these hard men,,, people goin into fighting who arent even hard,, train all you like, but if you cant knock the fuck out of everyone who lives around u, why bother?

the mma is a new thing, old days it was boxing, some of the hardest blokes goin could barely make it as a career, and they were the people who ran everything when they hung the gloves up...

the mma seems to attract alot of deluded people, all the top champs, boxing or mma were the toughest kids growing up