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Prohormones
« on: March 12, 2008, 07:06:46 AM »
Seems everything you read states that you should take Milk Thistle/Liver Protection when using Prohormones...

Does any of this stuff affect the kidneys?

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2008, 07:23:42 AM »
don't worry the liver will grow back

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2008, 11:11:01 AM »
Thanks there nitz!

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2008, 12:16:55 PM »
Thanks there nitz!

This stuff will help but it's not going to save you in the long run.  The toxicity of some of these products is horrible.  Luckily the liver is the only organ in the human body able to regenerate.  If you want to get big using drugs then use drugs don't mess with this prohormone shit.

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2008, 12:18:00 PM »
some guys dont want to break the law though, and high enough doseages of prohormones will yield the same results as real oral anabolics.

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2008, 01:49:15 PM »
some guys dont want to break the law though, and high enough doseages of prohormones will yield the same results as real oral anabolics.

Not totally true.

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2008, 01:59:34 PM »
Not totally true.
it can be,   alot of prohormones on the market are metabolites of oral steroids...they yeild a percentage of their mg in actual mg of the real thing... for example...tren extreme yeild 9% of its mg's as nandralone once the body converts it.   so 100 mg tren extreme yeilds 9 mg nandralone. real nandralone.

halordrol and cits clones are all metabolites of oral truinabol.

superdrol was a metabolite of anadrol.

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2008, 02:14:12 PM »
it can be,   alot of prohormones on the market are metabolites of oral steroids...they yeild a percentage of their mg in actual mg of the real thing... for example...tren extreme yeild 9% of its mg's as nandralone once the body converts it.   so 100 mg tren extreme yeilds 9 mg nandralone. real nandralone.

halordrol and cits clones are all metabolites of oral truinabol.

superdrol was a metabolite of anadrol.

Do you realize you're basically saying you can get the same effect by taking massive ammount of liver toxic PH/PS? I understand the idea - I'm just saying it's not totally true. I know that most PH/PS are basically derivatives of "real" steroids but just cause you've changed a molecule doesn't mean it'll yeild the same results. There's less the a 1% difference between a chimp & a human but that doesn't mean we're the same.

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2008, 02:37:02 PM »
im not advocating it.   its much much worse for the kidneys.

BUT

you could get the same results by mega dosing prohormones.

certain prohormones.

your not seeing what i am saying....your body converts prohormones(certain ones) into something else...  and that "something else" is the ACTUAL steroid..   (for certain prohomrones)...   halodrol converts into turinabol. tren extreme into nandralone. and superdrol into anadrol.    they convert into the EXACT compound.     its not something that is one molecule away.        the only thing is...they yeild very small percentages of the ingested amount of MG's, so you have to mega dose them. which is very unhealthy.





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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2008, 02:41:21 PM »
im not advocating it.   its much much worse for the kidneys.

BUT

you could get the same results by mega dosing prohormones.

certain prohormones.

your not seeing what i am saying....your body converts prohormones(certain ones) into something else...  and that "something else" is the ACTUAL steroid..   (for certain prohomrones)...   halodrol converts into turinabol. tren extreme into nandralone. and superdrol into anadrol.    they convert into the EXACT compound.     its not something that is one molecule away.        the only thing is...they yeild very small percentages of the ingested amount of MG's, so you have to mega dose them. which is very unhealthy.

Green - you're leaving out the liver.
Red - maybe (& it's a big maybe) close to the same results.

I understand what you're saying. You're not quite understanding what I'm getting at either. Either way leave it at that.

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2008, 10:26:14 PM »
All I can say is D-DROL!! 8) Imagine going from benching only 225 to 315 in 2 weeks. Yup, I say these Pro-hormones are pretty much real steroids.

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2008, 11:10:27 PM »
some guys dont want to break the law though, and high enough doseages of prohormones will yield the same results as real oral anabolics.

more mindlessness from our resident 18 year old expert

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2008, 10:29:49 AM »
more mindlessness from our resident 18 year old expert
hey geo...

FUCK YOU!


either show how im wrong, or shut the fuck up, yeah?

stupid mother fucker

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2008, 10:37:05 PM »
All I can say is D-DROL!! 8) Imagine going from benching only 225 to 315 in 2 weeks. Yup, I say these Pro-hormones are pretty much real steroids.

I don't come over here much. I believe D-Drol is a combo of 3 different compounds. I am guessing it works incredibly well, but be careful. I would not cycle it for more than 30 days. BTW, milk thistle is absolutely worthless at protecting the liver o this type of product.

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #14 on: March 14, 2008, 09:09:40 AM »
I don't come over here much. I believe D-Drol is a combo of 3 different compounds. I am guessing it works incredibly well, but be careful. I would not cycle it for more than 30 days. BTW, milk thistle is absolutely worthless at protecting the liver o this type of product.

Regarding the D-Drol in this discussion.... Is this the D-Drol by the manufacturer 4EverFit?

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2008, 11:07:33 AM »
Yup, 4-ever-fit makes D-DROL. I got only a few more days left on D-drol, so when Iam done with it, Iam done with Pro-hormones, Ive done my fair share of them. I got my bottle TEST CYP waiting for me. 8)

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2008, 11:50:59 AM »
prohormones=worthless

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2008, 04:50:49 PM »
prohormones=worthless

I love these threads...

they help weed out the kids or "people with limited experience "who really don't know a lot and still hav'nt had much luck with a decent diet.

pro hormones were proven useless 10-12 years ago and yet you'll still find people willing to give up thier money for the chance to hope something will work....

it's comical yet understandable.

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2008, 08:03:38 PM »
I love these threads...

they help weed out the kids or "people with limited experience "who really don't know a lot and still hav'nt had much luck with a decent diet.

pro hormones were proven useless 10-12 years ago and yet you'll still find people willing to give up thier money for the chance to hope something will work....
it's comical yet understandable.

the "pro hormones" that i am referencing, and that are being discussed in this thread, are not truly "prohormones"...they are designer steroids.  and they are not useless. they are dangerous, and toxic, but they forsure work.    go out and try some Testanate-50, tell me if that shit doesnt put some size on you... i work in a supp. shop and guys come in and buy "pro hormone" and come back a month later 10 lbs heavier.   

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Re: Prohormones
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2008, 09:10:23 PM »
prohormones=worthless
Straight to the 'slin, huh? ;)
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