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« on: February 13, 2008, 09:45:36 AM »
I am currently at a maritime academy and the gym here only has dumbells up to 55 lbs. I usually train chest with dumbells and barbells just to get a good varitaion going but the 55s are worthless to me for chest. Since I can only train barbell is it going to affect me differently? like with stabilizer muscles, strength... things like that.

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Re: No dumbells
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2008, 10:00:25 AM »
I am currently at a maritime academy and the gym here only has dumbells up to 55 lbs. I usually train chest with dumbells and barbells just to get a good varitaion going but the 55s are worthless to me for chest. Since I can only train barbell is it going to affect me differently? like with stabilizer muscles, strength... things like that.

Good to have both but not a huge difference.

If you're gonna be there a while, suggest more DBs to management.

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« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2008, 10:39:04 AM »
I am currently at a maritime academy and the gym here only has dumbells up to 55 lbs. I usually train chest with dumbells and barbells just to get a good varitaion going but the 55s are worthless to me for chest. Since I can only train barbell is it going to affect me differently? like with stabilizer muscles, strength... things like that.

can't you do flat & incline flies with the 55's?

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« Reply #3 on: February 13, 2008, 10:47:43 AM »
Good to have both but not a huge difference.

If you're gonna be there a while, suggest more DBs to management.
Agreed.

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Re: No dumbells
« Reply #4 on: February 13, 2008, 12:48:01 PM »
if youre used to do dbs should be a good time to do benches for variety - or dips!
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« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2008, 01:04:54 PM »
ok, thanks. I wont worry about it then. Im thinking about trying that 5x5 protocol so barbell should be good for that anyways. and to answer the question about the flies, yes I do use them for flies but thats it.

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Re: No dumbells
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2008, 01:15:32 PM »
to buys 2 dumbells (empty bar) is not that expensive. You only have to look that the plates of your gym
will adjust to the dumbells.
For warm-up you can use up to the 55`s. And after this you make your dumbells as heavy as you need.


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Re: No dumbells
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2008, 01:18:22 PM »
do both flat and incline bar presses and hang the 55 off your waist and do some dips.

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« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2008, 02:16:33 PM »
I'm gonna start focusing on hitting inclines first in my chest routine to develop my upper chest to the fullest. I just started those weighted dips a week or two ago and I like them alot, I can feel a difference already. I'll be done with this academy soon and hopefully moved on to a better place with a better gym. atleast they have one though... I feel lucky for that.

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Re: No dumbells
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2008, 07:15:13 PM »
Lots of ways to make those 55's much heavier to the muscles. Might try the one and one half system, which should make those 55's feel that much tougher. Probably want to start with a pair of 30's or so. Incline or flat, start the press with the  the DB's from the bottom position all the way up and lower only halfway down and than all the way up again. Now lower all the way down to the starting bottom position. That would be one and one half rep. Brings more time under tension (TUT) to the chest area rather than just throwing up the DB's like a lot of people do. The reps are slow and controlled throughout the movement.  Aim for 8 to 12 reps. You should get a very good pump in the whole chest area. 3 or 4 sets.

As suggested, dips are an excellent  muscle mass exercise. Might try a set of dips follower right away by a set of incline/flat DB bench presses. Probably you will start with a lower pair of DB's.  Effective SS for the chest area. If a Tri set peaks your interest, than start with a set of push-ups of 12 to 15 reps. Without rest do as many dips (bwt) as you can. For the last phase of the chest workout grab a pair of DB's to do inclines and  try for 8 to 12 reps. Try for 2 or 3 cycles of SS's or tri sets. Again, you should get a traffic pump in the whole chest area. Though a super pump it's self is never a suggestion that muscle mass will follow.

Another version of DB presses is to start with a hammer grip (fingers of the hands facing each other) and the DB's touching the side of the chest area. Now press the DB overhead but keep the elbows nearest the body at all time, never have the elbows  flair out. As the DB's come up, twist the grip/wrist so at the top/finished position the fingers are facing forward. That should make the 55's (or whatever you are using at the time) feel that much heavier.

Might even consider doing GVT (10X10's) with those DB's and see what happens.  GVT should improve your regular bp also.

When you service requirements are done at the academy (Coast Guard?..Merchant Marine?) and you get a  duty station you should be able to hook up with a regular gym somewhere.  The above example are just to hold you over until you can begin starting a more serious and heavy lifting program. Though, for a lot of guy's, this type of training (1 & 1/2, ss & tri sets) have built impressive muscle in the past. Thinking of the classic BB'er of the late 60's and 70's. Good Luck.
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« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2008, 08:40:08 PM »
Right on, Thanks man. Its a Merchant Marine Academy for the Seafarers International Union in Maryland. I go to a ship for 3 months right after this and I'm crossing my fingers that there is a gym there too. I worked on an oil platform with no gym once and it fvckin sucked.

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Re: No dumbells
« Reply #11 on: February 13, 2008, 09:00:05 PM »
Right on, Thanks man. Its a Merchant Marine Academy for the Seafarers International Union in Maryland. I go to a ship for 3 months right after this and I'm crossing my fingers that there is a gym there too. I worked on an oil platform with no gym once and it fvckin sucked.

Wherever you go when there's no gym you can find ways to get a good workout using calisthenics with maybe a little extra weight added, or using resistance bands. Seriously.




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Re: No dumbells
« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2008, 08:09:15 PM »
Lots of ways to make those 55's much heavier to the muscles. Might try the one and one half system, which should make those 55's feel that much tougher. Probably want to start with a pair of 30's or so. Incline or flat, start the press with the  the DB's from the bottom position all the way up and lower only halfway down and than all the way up again. Now lower all the way down to the starting bottom position. That would be one and one half rep. Brings more time under tension (TUT) to the chest area rather than just throwing up the DB's like a lot of people do. The reps are slow and controlled throughout the movement.  Aim for 8 to 12 reps. You should get a very good pump in the whole chest area. 3 or 4 sets.




never tried that before

sounds different

gotta give it a go