Frank Mcgrath curl form

[linden]

I got the animal pak arms dvd when i ordered some shit. it has frank mcgrath doing his arms work out on all his curls he only curls to 90deg. why is that?

[Bluto]

he goes up to his nose doesnt he? how far you reckon he should go

[linden]

no he only goes half way up

[Bluto]

 

[mass 04]

he goes up to his nose doesnt he? how far you reckon he should go

through his forehead baby. hardcore

[linden]

ive seen the youtube video where he goes all the way up but on this workout he does not

[Bluto]

pic i posted is from his 31 minute video

[Emmortal]

Going all the way up to your nose puts a lot of the stress on the delts and takes the biceps out of the move quite a bit.  90 degrees keeps the stress on the biceps almost entirely.

[pumpster]

Good example of partial ROM being better than full. Schwarzenegger did the same thing. Full ROM on standing curls isn't as efficient and can lead to the front delts burning out before the bis.

[Steelrabbitt]

Does he not have good genetics 4 arms?

[QuakerOats]

185 on olympic bar curls, strong bastard.

[GoneAway]

Good example of partial ROM being better than full. Schwarzenegger did the same thing. Full ROM on standing curls isn't as efficient and can lead to the front delts burning out before the bis.

If done incorrectly, yes.

[pumpster]

If done incorrectly, yes.

Not really, it's an inherent flaw involving the biomechanics of free weight standing curls even when done correctly. Many equate strict, full ROM with a greater work ethic and assume it's always the ideal form of exercise when in fact one doesn't necessarily follow the other. Conversely it's easy to associate cheats and partial ROM with lesser levels of work and less effective workouts when in fact it's not necessarily true, in fact it can be the opposite.

Arthur Jones and others were able to make big money off machines that in some cases successfully negated much or some of the flaws involving free weight biomechanics. 2 factors involving free weight standing curls: very little resistance at the beginning of the motion followed by too much AKA a sticking point that can get in the way, and the excessive use of front delts. The best way around the sticking point is Arnold's preference for cheats, Coleman's preference for pulley curls over free weights, or partial ROM seated barbell curls. For the delt issue either an arm blaster or brace the elbows on each side of the front abs-more easily done using pulleys.

Partial ROMs and/or cheats can in fact exhaust the muscle more effectively than strict ROMs.

[GoneAway]

Not really, it's an inherent flaw involving the biomechanics of free weight standing curls even when done correctly.

That's the thing - if done correctly the shoulders aren't a flaw or factor at all.

The correct way to do standing barbell curls is to keep your upper arms perpendicular to the floor throughout the entire exercise. This will keep the shoulders out of the movement, apart from simply acting as a stabiliser to hold your arms in position.

[pumpster]

That's the thing - if done correctly the shoulders aren't a flaw or factor at all.

The correct way to do standing barbell curls is to keep your upper arms perpendicular to the floor throughout the entire exercise. This will keep the shoulders out of the movement, apart from simply acting as a stabiliser to hold your arms in position.

Keeping the arms in a fixed, unsupported position while curling in strict "correct" form actually requires heavy front delt involvement, the upper arms ain't gonna stay in the desired position by themselves given that they're unsupported, and it isn't the bis that provide the stabilization. As a result "correct" strict standing curls enlist so much front delts that they burn out before biceps are tired. It may not be obvious until the very end of the set just how much delt involvement there is. Has happened many times to me; it's a big distraction from hitting the bis completely to have a secondary muscle tire first. Basically to take most of the front delts out of it you either have to rest the upper arms against something-arm blaster or bracing the elbows against the sides-or cheat that first part that primarily enlists the front delts far more than bis.

[GoneAway]

Keeping the arms in a fixed, unsupported position while curling in strict "correct" form actually requires heavy front delt involvement, the upper arms ain't gonna stay in the desired position by themselves given that they're unsupported, and it isn't the bis that provide the stabilization. As a result "correct" strict standing curls enlist so much front delts that they burn out before biceps are tired. It may not be obvious until the very end of the set just how much delt involvement there is. Has happened many times to me; it's a big distraction from hitting the bis completely to have a secondary muscle tire first. Basically to take most of the front delts out of it you either have to rest the upper arms against something-arm blaster or bracing the elbows against the sides-or cheat that first part that primarily enlists the front delts far more than bis.

It requires as much rear delt involvement as front delt, otherwise your upper arms would be either slightly forward or slightly behind your torso, when viewed side-on.

I've done barbell biceps curls for years with strict form, going to failure most of the time, and have never felt my front delts fatigue at all. When watching yourself side-on in the mirror, the back of your triceps are a good indication as to whether your upper arm is still or moving slightly forward.

[jpm101]

The front delts are used as a stabilization factor, but not a major factor when doing BB curls. All three heads of the delts, traps, upper/lower back, pec's, abs, etc act as a unit. There are all part of the whole when curling.  The triceps are the main counter/balance/stabilization function when curling (if a numbing agent were applied to the 3 headed triceps, to deaden their muscle function...you would have a hard time  curling anything). Why the front (anterior) delts would be "burned out" before for the biceps  defies logic. If this happens, that the front delts "burns out", than that person has not a clue how to workout or understand how the human body works..

If doing standing BB curls, bend slightly(4 to 6 inches) forward from the waist and curl that way for a better affect on the biceps. Also quite a few men, with very large biceps, do not do full ROM's at all. Their rep range is in the middle ROM for any set. Keeping the time under tension (TUT) on the biceps themselves. May not be for everyone, but works very well for them. Good Luck.

[GoneAway]

Spot on with everything, JPM.