Q about nolva and letro!

[Meso_z]

In a precontest cycle is it a good idea to start with nolva ed (or eod) and in the last few weeks switch to letro? Are they actually doing the same "job" - keeping water retention low?

In my previous preparation letro absolutely KILLED my sex drive - no erection or desire....

How can i combat this "effect"? 

[Van_Bilderass]

Did letro make you drier last time around? If so was it a very noticeable effect?

[Meso_z]

Did letro make you drier last time around? If so was it a very noticeable effect?

Yes! very dry! so dry that even my skin at my hands was peeling you know like it was winter and my knees also hurt (but i was also on winny)..

[Van_Bilderass]

Yes! very dry! so dry that even my skin at my hands was peeling you know like it was winter and my knees also hurt (but i was also on winny)..

Alright. If you feel it helps why not include it just a couple of weeks before the comp? It brings down E real fast so should work quickly for water retention. I'm assuming you ran it for many weeks?

[Meso_z]

Alright. If you feel it helps why not include it just a couple of weeks before the comp? It brings down E real fast so should work quickly for water retention. I'm assuming you ran it for many weeks?

about 7 weeks....

but how do i combat sex drive loss? with viagra or cialis?

[Exal]

you loose your sexdrive on letro because it has the ability to remove up to 96% of all the estrogen in your body, no sex drive during contest time is what you trade off for being super dry because of basicly having no estrogen to cause water retention

nolva does nothing for  water retention btw, its a SERM which means that it binds to estrogen receptors in your breast tissue(to alot of other tissue too) so they can't be activated by estrogen therefor preventing gyno..

letro is an aromatase inhibitor meaning it makes testosterone unable to convert to estrogen at all

if you want a better alternative that won't destroy your sex drive try aromasin or arimidex at relatively low doses, will bring your estrogen to natty levels while on cycle

sexdrive wise theres not alot you can do besides downing cialis, but that won't get you in the mood if you are close to having no estrogen in your body at all

[dustin]

Estrogen is paramount for libido. Viagra and Cialis won't help with libido but they should help to get you hard. So in a sense it'll help blunt the loss of libido but it will be superficial.

[liquid_c]

Letro works great.  The main problem with it is people just use wayyyyy to much.  .5-1mg mg E3D is MORE than enough to kill water retention.  It's very potent stuff, if your sex drive suffered, then you took way too much.

[dustin]

Letro works great.  The main problem with it is people just use wayyyyy to much.  .5-1mg mg E3D is MORE than enough to kill water retention.  It's very potent stuff, if your sex drive suffered, then you took way too much.

The reason is because all the cookie cutter guides instruct fools to run up to 2.5mls ED!!! Maybe if you were desperate to get rid of gyno (or lessen it as much as possible...... but damn. YES, people use way too much letro.

[abc123]

The reason is because all the cookie cutter guides instruct fools to run up to 2.5mls ED!!! Maybe if you were desperate to get rid of gyno (or lessen it as much as possible...... but damn. YES, people use way too much letro.

The reason is also that most UG liquid ancillaries like Letro are significanty underdosed.  So, people have to take what they think is 2.5 mg to get the desired effect.

[Captain Equipoise]

Split the letro tab (2.5mg) into 3 or 4 portions and take one of these EOD, under 1mg EOD it doesn't tend to affect sex drive as much (personal experience)

[WillGrant]

about 7 weeks....

but how do i combat sex drive loss? with viagra or cialis?

Viagra/cialis Wont increase sex drive bro,they just give you help getting wood , which you wont get if you have no libido..

Proviron has always worked well for me in getting sex drive moving again.

[dustin]

The reason is also that most UG liquid ancillaries like Letro are significanty underdosed.  So, people have to take what they think is 2.5 mg to get the desired effect.

Very true. I used arimidex from an otherwise very reputable UGL up here in Canada and it took at least 2mg of arimidex and nolva to keep my nipples from puffing up. Had a hard time getting anything else. I've had RESEARCH GRADE chems do a better job.

Got a bit of HG stuff and the dosage was scaled back immensely. I'm starting to think their fucking orals probably have nothing other than DHEA or something in them.

[abc123]

Very true. I used arimidex from an otherwise very reputable UGL up here in Canada and it took at least 2mg of arimidex and nolva to keep my nipples from puffing up. Had a hard time getting anything else. I've had RESEARCH GRADE chems do a better job.

Got a bit of HG stuff and the dosage was scaled back immensely. I'm starting to think their fucking orals probably have nothing other than DHEA or something in them.

Probably.  I've told a story about AG-Guys Aromasin before.  I once switched from US pharma Aromasin and had to take over four times as much AG-Guys L-Aroma to get a similar result.  I'll never use their crap again.  It's all pharma for me.

[DIVISION]

In a precontest cycle is it a good idea to start with nolva ed (or eod) and in the last few weeks switch to letro? Are they actually doing the same "job" - keeping water retention low?

In my previous preparation letro absolutely KILLED my sex drive - no erection or desire....

How can i combat this "effect"? 

If you're determined to stay as dry as possible, you'll have to accept the sides as well.

Femara is known for being harsh.

If you'd like something that works but isn't as harsh, try Aromasin.


DIV