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Quote of the Day: Teddy Atlas Can't Face Facts
« on: March 06, 2009, 05:17:57 PM »
"You brought up a good point about us -- we don't even talk about it enough. The sport does not market itself. There's no one there to do that. So you get the perception that mixed martial arts is really climbing. The reality is, when you see a big fight, whether it's De La Hoya-Pacquiao or De La Hoya-Mayweather, or whatever, you realize -- and I'm not knocking mixed martial arts, I think that sport's good and the participants are tough guys -- but Ultimate Fighting's not a pimple on the ass of boxing.

When you see boxing, with those pay-per-view buys, and one fighter making $40 million and the other fighter making $20 million, you say, "Are you kidding me? You think (the UFC is) making inroads into boxing? No, no, no. They don't come close. Not when it comes to the big fights. But the problem is, that's what boxing has come to, where you only get that one big fight a year or one every two years.That's the problem. You don't have the public talking about all the other fights in between."

-- Teddy Atlas, talking to AOL Fanhouse.

How does one respect Teddy Atlas yet also find this drivel impossible to stomach? Atlas is correct that the truly marquee boxing match-ups garner massive attention, much more so than even the bigger UFC fights or events. But this is typical boxing apologist sleight of hand. Both fights referenced by Atlas involve De La Hoya: the most popular figure in North American combat sports who is likely to retire this year. Without his contribution to the sport, the picture changes quite dramatically. And Atlas simply cannot accept this reality. Boxing apologists keep attaching their arguments to support boxing to illusory benchmarks or temporary realities with little to no acknowledgement for long term prospects.

But they do so at their own peril. Were it not for their pride, boxing diehards could probably do enough to keep the sport afloat after De La Hoya retires. Unfortunately, most are too mired in their own outdated fundamentalist worldview where boxing's place in history or culture is immutable to realize those positions aren't as permanent as they seem to think.

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Re: Quote of the Day: Teddy Atlas Can't Face Facts
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2009, 07:46:46 PM »
Teddy is right to a point. There is nobody in the history of MMA who comands the amount of money any of the top echelon boxing guys in history have- I mean really, in the big scheme of things, the top MMA guys fight for pennies compared to the top boxing guys. But, Teddy is 100% wrong about MMA making inroads into boxing. Besides being the fastest growing sport in America, you have big time MMA fights damn near every single month while with boxing your liable to see 3 big fights per year tops. In addition, 90% of the good fights are on PPV with boxing and you can only catch them without paying if you have HBO and can catch a repeat.

With the UFC you can put on spike TV 3-4 nights per week and watch quality fights all the time. In a lot of respects, the UFC reminds me of how all professional athletes begin in this country- from baseball to basketball to football and even boxing- Right now its popularity is in its infancy. Once it grows larger ( MMA popularity will increase substantially once UFC events are allowed at MSG) and the general public takes a deeper interest, the contracts will increase, the individual fights will generate more revenue and the fighters will get wise and unionize against management or engage in some kind of structured organizational body to secure more income.

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Re: Quote of the Day: Teddy Atlas Can't Face Facts
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2009, 10:42:32 PM »
dont forget there is no characters in mma compared to boxing. at least boxing you had hype like when ever mike tyson fought you heard about it. ali was another hype man.

then you have ufc. with no hype, boring fighters with no personalities. no high profiled fighters in the media and no one is feared to the main stream. at least when you mention mike tyson. they say he is baddest mofo on the planet i dont wanna fuk with him, he scares the shit out of me of something.

when you mention fedor or chuck there like who??

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Re: Quote of the Day: Teddy Atlas Can't Face Facts
« Reply #3 on: March 07, 2009, 06:52:22 AM »
dont forget there is no characters in mma compared to boxing. at least boxing you had hype like when ever mike tyson fought you heard about it. ali was another hype man.

then you have ufc. with no hype, boring fighters with no personalities. no high profiled fighters in the media and no one is feared to the main stream. at least when you mention mike tyson. they say he is baddest mofo on the planet i dont wanna fuk with him, he scares the shit out of me of something.

when you mention fedor or chuck there like who??

NO characters in MMA???  ::)