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Incline vs. flat
« on: April 16, 2009, 12:39:49 AM »
Anybody else stronger on inclines than of flat bench?  I assume it's because I was born with more muscle fibers in my upper chest. 

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2009, 02:46:36 AM »
Are you serious?



If you are, better dig out your anatomy charts.

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2009, 06:08:18 AM »
You may be using different form for each.

Are you one of those people who keep their feet on the end of the bench when flat benching?

And/or...

Are you the type that arches their back with their ass rising 8 in. out of the seat when inclining?


Different form will recruit more or less ancillary muscles.
That’s why form is the first thing I would check with an imbalance like that.

Also, in what order do you perform the two exercises?
If you incline before flat, then that's probably an issue, too.

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2009, 06:09:55 AM »
It sucks how weak I am at incline compared to flat bench >:(

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2009, 09:49:15 AM »
i'm almost equally strong on both...same weight, just can do 1-2 reps more on flat

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2009, 05:11:08 PM »
I've been focusing more on incline's recently.  I'm about 20lbs less than my flat bench at the moment.

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2009, 06:16:48 PM »
im stronger on flat by about 25-35javascript:swapOptions();lbs...if i do incline first i can still do more on flat if its my 2nd mvmt.

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2009, 06:41:50 PM »
I'm about 60-70 lbs weaker on inclines but then again the inlines at my gym are a lot steeper than a lot of inclines I see vids of on the internet...


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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2009, 07:56:48 PM »
If you can, set up an adjustable bench inside of a power rack for your incline bb presses.
Place the hooks and safety pins accordingly.
The advantage is that you can set that bench at a lesser incline – even as little as 10 degrees.

I always get a better feel in those upper pec fibers doing it this way.

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2009, 08:39:46 PM »
I stopped doing heavy flats years ago because of pec strains. I do Inclines now and can do almost the same as my flat years ago. If you train the Incline like you do the Flat, you should be about as strong eventually. And its a helluva lot more impressive to use alot of weight on Inclines than Flats.

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2009, 07:22:56 PM »
i am close to as strong on incline as i am on flat,my upper pecs are way overdeveloped compared to my lower. I have done flat probably 30 times in 9 years as opposed to an incline mvt 1st and 2nd 100's of times. I have a different structure as well and can shoulder press alot as well.

just think it has to due with individual biomechanics, i also dont feel comfortable on flat at all.

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #11 on: April 19, 2009, 02:15:51 AM »
haven't done flats in a long while

they allmost feel like declines to me

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #12 on: April 19, 2009, 07:00:19 AM »
I can do flat work and feel more chest fiber activation – particularly in the upper region – when I lower the bar to higher up towards my clavicle.

Even tried Smith presses bringing the bar to the adam’s apple – keeping the elbows flared out wide with feet up on the end of the bench.
Unique angle, hard stretch…
Makes the pecs work in a way they’re not used to.


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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2009, 12:49:20 PM »
I can do flat work and feel more chest fiber activation – particularly in the upper region – when I lower the bar to higher up towards my clavicle.

Even tried Smith presses bringing the bar to the adam’s apple – keeping the elbows flared out wide with feet up on the end of the bench.
Unique angle, hard stretch…
Makes the pecs work in a way they’re not used to.



sounds good gonna have to give it a try

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2009, 05:11:09 PM »
Good.
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Start with a light weight.
Report back.

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #15 on: April 20, 2009, 04:24:54 PM »
im guessing its going to hit the upper part of the chest?

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2009, 05:41:43 PM »
Mainly, yes - provided you do it correctly.

I'll post the article for you here if I can find it.


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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2009, 07:07:11 PM »
thank ya there

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #18 on: April 23, 2009, 11:15:31 AM »
I can do flat work and feel more chest fiber activation – particularly in the upper region – when I lower the bar to higher up towards my clavicle.

Even tried Smith presses bringing the bar to the adam’s apple – keeping the elbows flared out wide with feet up on the end of the bench.
Unique angle, hard stretch…
Makes the pecs work in a way they’re not used to.


i tried this today at the end of my workout. great exercise, although it got a bit harsh on my pec delt tie in are. but i think ill learn to isolate better and remove that stress after a few more workouts. but otherwis it kicked my upper chests ass. how much weight do you use on this for how many reps? i tried 315 but i could barely get it to move an inch off the safety thingies of the smith.

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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #19 on: April 23, 2009, 12:22:46 PM »
Well, Dizzy,
For starters, I can assure you it was nowhere near 315 – especially towards the end of my workout.
And be careful using words like “isolate.”
You’re liable to start 10 new threads on the “isolation/one-muscle” debate.
But you are feeling the work in the right place.

Second, this really isn’t the kind of movement you try for singles or doubles, and I believe that using that kind of weight could be dangerous, considering the body’s position.
Weight is not as important as form here, and 10-12 reps is usually what I aim for.

If you do this exercise as recommended, you’re starting with the weight on the safety stops. Adds a different feel from most bb chest presses, which often begin with a negative portion rep.
I honestly don’t know how big a role - if any - this fact plays in the movement (every other rep will in essence be starting from the top range anyway).
But if you want to handle more weight, I suppose you could – after adjusting the bar & bench to the appropriate positions – start your set with the bar at the top rather than the bottom portion of the rep. It will be easier to get started.

I also recommend doing these near the end of your workout when your body is thoroughly warmed up and limber.
I did stop doing these for a period because they began bothering my right shoulder a bit.


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Re: Incline vs. flat
« Reply #20 on: April 23, 2009, 12:40:28 PM »
yeah, i lowered it to 225 and was getting about 10-12 reps, i could have done a bit more, but at that point id start feeeling it straining my shoulders, so id stop...as i didnt want to workout shoulders i wanted to workout my chest.. (isolate isolate isolate!!!!!!  :P   :D )

it was nice feeling in the chest tho, thx for the tip