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Health Care Wanted: Dead or Alive by Dennis Kucinich
Posted on August 18, 2009



by Dennis Kucinich
The masquerade is over! The “public option” is … dead.

Health care reform is now a private option: WHICH FOR PROFIT INSURANCE COMPANY DO YOU WANT? You have to choose. And you have to pay. If you have a low income, under HR3200 government will subsidize the private insurance companies and you will still have to pay premiums, co-pays and deductibles.
The Administration plan requires that everyone must have health insurance, so it is delivering tens of millions of new “customers” to the insurance companies. Health care? Not really. Insurance care! Absolutely. Cost controls? No chance.

You will next hear talk about “co-ops.” The truth is that insurance company campaign contributions have co-opted the public interest.

The hotly-debated HR3200, the so-called “health care reform” bill, is nothing less than corporate welfare in the guise of social welfare and reform. It is a convoluted mess. The real debate which we should be having is not occurring.

Removing the “public option” from a public bill paid for by public money is not in the public interest. What is left is a “private option” paid for with public money. Why should public money be spent on a private option which does not guarantee 100% coverage nor have any cost controls? A true public option would provide 30% savings immediately which would then cover the 1/3rd of the population who presently have no health care.

Unfortunately, under HR3200, the Government is choosing winners and losers in the private sector; proposing to spend public funds on subsidizing insurance companies who make money not providing health care. This process will insure only the expansion of profits. Gone is the debate over cost.


As a result of current negotiations, the Medicare Part D rip-off will continue for another decade, further fleecing senior citizens. Drug importation has been dropped, so no inexpensive drugs can be accessed from other nations.

Instead we are told the pharmaceutical companies will accept a 2% cut in the growth rate of their profits – they call this cost control!

If the matter were not so serious, it would be farcical: The executive branch pretends that the proposed health care reforms are something they are not. The legislation is being attacked for something it is not. Congressional leadership and the White House defend the legislation, pretending it actually is the very proposal that is being attacked. But it is not.

A commonsense government health care reform policy would insure that every single American has full access to health care by expanding Medicare to cover everyone under a Single Payer System. We are already paying for a universal standard of care, it is just we are not getting it.


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Re: DENNIS KUCINICH:Obama`s HR3200 Convoluted Mess of Corporate Welfare
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 09:05:13 PM »
Boing.

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Re: DENNIS KUCINICH:Obama`s HR3200 Convoluted Mess of Corporate Welfare
« Reply #2 on: August 19, 2009, 05:57:36 AM »
Boing.

Crickets Chirping, bro.

But I agree with Dennis.

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Re: DENNIS KUCINICH:Obama`s HR3200 Convoluted Mess of Corporate Welfare
« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2009, 06:05:54 AM »
Crickets Chirping, bro.

But I agree with Dennis.

He is 100% correct that it is corporate welfare.  Its a disgrace and so is Obama for making deals in the WH with the drug companies. 

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Re: DENNIS KUCINICH:Obama`s HR3200 Convoluted Mess of Corporate Welfare
« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2009, 06:33:33 AM »
He is 100% correct that it is corporate welfare.  Its a disgrace and so is Obama for making deals in the WH with the drug companies. 

Same thing with Medicare Part-D and Bush leaving out the option , shockingly, to import lower cost drugs from other nations. Thus locking the elderly and the U.S. Taxpayer into paying whatever price the Pharma companies see fit.

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Re: DENNIS KUCINICH:Obama`s HR3200 Convoluted Mess of Corporate Welfare
« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2009, 08:13:06 AM »
Another aspect to this is that Vision and Dental ARE NOT a part of any Current Private Health Insurance plan and have to be purchased IN ADDITION to Medical Health Insurance Plans.


For instance, when I worked at UnitedHealth Care, the Ford Employees had no dental or vision coverage and had to Purchase it separately.

The same goes with Prescription Drugs.  Another Private Company handles those, most of the time on a tiered system.

This means you can only get whatever medications the Private Company deals with and permits.  Usually this means generics with few options and only a percentage is paid.  Let`s say you have Cancer and your doctor recommends hormone therapy as being essential to your survival but the medication is not allowed by your Prescription Provider.  The Prescription Drug part of your plan will not pay anything whatsoever even though your doctor deems it necessary.

You have to pick up the bill entirely and medications can cause 10s of thousands of dollars per treatment.  The cost of drugs are high because of this Insurance Arms race and deals.  You have no power whatsoever, especially if your Insurance is supplied by your employer.

The same medication and same brand that would cost 50 dollars in England, can cost 10,000 dollars here.

VERY sick situation.

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Re: DENNIS KUCINICH:Obama`s HR3200 Convoluted Mess of Corporate Welfare
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2009, 08:37:10 AM »
Another aspect to this is that Vision and Dental ARE NOT a part of any Current Private Health Insurance plan and have to be purchased IN ADDITION to Medical Health Insurance Plans.


For instance, when I worked at UnitedHealth Care, the Ford Employees had no dental or vision coverage and had to Purchase it separately.

The same goes with Prescription Drugs.  Another Private Company handles those, most of the time on a tiered system.

This means you can only get whatever medications the Private Company deals with and permits.  Usually this means generics with few options and only a percentage is paid.  Let`s say you have Cancer and your doctor recommends hormone therapy as being essential to your survival but the medication is not allowed by your Prescription Provider.  The Prescription Drug part of your plan will not pay anything whatsoever even though your doctor deems it necessary.

You have to pick up the bill entirely and medications can cause 10s of thousands of dollars per treatment.  The cost of drugs are high because of this Insurance Arms race and deals.  You have no power whatsoever, especially if your Insurance is supplied by your employer.

The same medication and same brand that would cost 50 dollars in England, can cost 10,000 dollars here.

VERY sick situation.
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Re: DENNIS KUCINICH:Obama`s HR3200 Convoluted Mess of Corporate Welfare
« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2009, 08:42:50 AM »

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Re: DENNIS KUCINICH:Obama`s HR3200 Convoluted Mess of Corporate Welfare
« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2009, 08:47:16 AM »


TA - the problem is that most people have an equal negative experience with govt run institutions.

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Re: DENNIS KUCINICH:Obama`s HR3200 Convoluted Mess of Corporate Welfare
« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2009, 08:49:26 AM »
TA - the problem is that most people have an equal negative experience with govt run institutions.
Which is not based in any fact, just fear mongering.

Have you seen how pissed Brtions are regarding the false demonization of their Healthcare system by Republicans in this country?

They are not letting up right now at all.

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Re: DENNIS KUCINICH:Obama`s HR3200 Convoluted Mess of Corporate Welfare
« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2009, 08:52:43 AM »
Its based on going in to the DMV, Post Office, SS office, Court, etc.

Most people assume health care experience will the same as their experience with the DMV.   


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Re: DENNIS KUCINICH:Obama`s HR3200 Convoluted Mess of Corporate Welfare
« Reply #11 on: August 19, 2009, 09:08:37 AM »
Its based on going in to the DMV, Post Office, SS office, Court, etc.

Most people assume health care experience will the same as their experience with the DMV.   


And that is precisely why it makes no sense and is unfounded.