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Here's proof that god didn't sacrifice jesus for us
« on: September 01, 2009, 03:23:27 AM »
Now according to the trinity god, jesus, and the holy spirit are one together to form a god. So three persons in one god. ::) Anyway, god supposedly became flesh, then lived on Earth, preached then was sacrificed and resurrected.

So if god was omnipotent and is all knowing, then he knew that he was going to die and rise again. As an immortal, he would never die. So in reality there was no sacrifice, since he knew he never was going to die.

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Re: Here's proof that god didn't sacrifice jesus for us
« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2009, 11:17:05 AM »
Now according to the trinity god, jesus, and the holy spirit are one together to form a god. So three persons in one god. ::) Anyway, god supposedly became flesh, then lived on Earth, preached then was sacrificed and resurrected.

So if god was omnipotent and is all knowing, then he knew that he was going to die and rise again. As an immortal, he would never die. So in reality there was no sacrifice, since he knew he never was going to die.

His human body died, right?  (And then later was resurrected and made into a glorified body.)

The bible indicates that all of our souls/spirits will live on but our fleshly bodies will perish (and later be changed).

The fact that He knew that a part of Him would never dies doesn't negate the sacrifice.  The bible indicates that in the moments of His crucifixion He took all the world's sin upon Himself.

And knowing that a part of you will not die doesn't take away the sacrifice.  How about a soldier that throws himself onto a grenade to save his buddies?  If he believes in an afterlife for his soul/spirit, does that mean he made no sacrifice?

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Re: Here's proof that god didn't sacrifice jesus for us
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2009, 12:30:55 PM »
His human body died, right?  (And then later was resurrected and made into a glorified body.)
Doesn't make sense. How is an immortal human? If he was human he wouldn't be immortal.

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The bible indicates that all of our souls/spirits will live on but our fleshly bodies will perish (and later be changed).
That is what has been indicated, but how do we know it's true?

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The fact that He knew that a part of Him would never dies doesn't negate the sacrifice.  The bible indicates that in the moments of His crucifixion He took all the world's sin upon Himself.
It's not a sacrifice if he never perished. He came back to life according to the bible.

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And knowing that a part of you will not die doesn't take away the sacrifice.  How about a soldier that throws himself onto a grenade to save his buddies?  If he believes in an afterlife for his soul/spirit, does that mean he made no sacrifice?
You are relating what happens to a human being, which in biblical scripture jesus wasn't. In the beginning there was the word and the word was god. And the word became flesh. Again trinity states jesus was a god.


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Re: Here's proof that god didn't sacrifice jesus for us
« Reply #3 on: September 02, 2009, 10:58:03 AM »
Doesn't make sense. How is an immortal human? If he was human he wouldn't be immortal.




His body was a human/fleshly body.


That is what has been indicated, but how do we know it's true?



We'll just have to wait and see.



It's not a sacrifice if he never perished. He came back to life according to the bible.




His body perished.


You are relating what happens to a human being, which in biblical scripture jesus wasn't. In the beginning there was the word and the word was god. And the word became flesh. Again trinity states jesus was a god.




Yes, Jesus is God.  And when on earth He was God incarnate.  He had a human body...that died on the cross.

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Re: Here's proof that god didn't sacrifice jesus for us
« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2009, 04:51:46 PM »
Gods are fragil things.They may be killed with a wiff of science or a dose of common sense.
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