Got poked by a nurse today

[Kentucky_cowboy]

I got a flu shot today from a nurse they were doing H1N1 vaccines so it was like a large floor with many many nurses and people going and getting their shot like an assembly line, so each nurse was giving many shots, also they were all RN by profession so have given many shots before too.

She gave me mine on the delt, and I hadn't had a shot there for over a week - it was a long thin needle like 1.5 inches but maybe 25 guage and she tried to poke it fast and all of a sudden pulled it out and was confused saying that the needle stopped and would not go further and said sorry but she will have to try it again. She seemed confused and then tried again and same thing but this time she pushed the vaccine inside and it looked like she was struggling to empty the syringe in me. I asked if this was better and she said no it felt like the needle hit a rock and would not go further but she still injected it and said "it did not go in as well as it should." Again she was very confused and goes "It could not have hit the bone because you have a fair bit of muscle."  I didnt notice how far the needle went in but she wanted it to go in deeper and felt like she was hitting something hard and made it hard to inject too.  She also said in her whole career she has never experienced anything like this.

I think they were using 1.5 inch needles in case they get someone very obese and need to go through fatty tissue but for most people they would only push the needle in partways

I am thinking this is scar tissue that caused this what do you guys think?  I poke that delt less than once a week but I use a 21 guage  maybe the lower guage is causing too much scar tissue?

She asked if Ive had injections there before and I said yes a testosterone injection in that delt maybe once every few weeks and she asked if its hard for the needle to go in and I said as far as I knew it was fine but I dont know what to compare it to so who knows.

If this was scar tissue these are the kind of reasons why I dont like the idea of injecting any more frequent than necessary and prefer long esters

[Kentucky_cowboy]

Also I think the reason I dont feel the same "rock" like feeling when I poke myself is I push it very slowly, but since she was trying to do a fast poke she felt something, but come to think of it I do find it harder to empty my syringe now than I did at the start of the cycle, sometimes I feel I'm really pushing hard with my finger empty it, do you guys ever get this?

[MuscleMcMannus]

Dude a 21 gauge is a fucking cannon for a delt.  I use a 23 gauge once in a while but mostly 25 gauge.  I'd definitely quit using a 21 gauge.  It's not necessary.   

[g101]

i use 21g 1.5 for glutes

[MuscleMcMannus]

i use 21g 1.5 for glutes

Why?  That's retarded.  23g is plenty big enough you'll have a lot less scar tissue.  I use 25g for just about everything anyways. 

[Kentucky_cowboy]

When I went to buy them they only had 21 guage in 1 and 1.5 inches so I bought a bunch of 1 inch ones for delt/quad and 1.5 inch ones for glute, but all 21 guage.  Next time I'll look for 23 guages

[local hero]

all this guage talk confuses me,,, in america are they not colour coded?...

ours go from green ( largest guage, used for loading ), then blue and orange?

[Kentucky_cowboy]

all this guage talk confuses me,,, in america are they not colour coded?...

ours go from green ( largest guage, used for loading ), then blue and orange?

in canada we just go to any store and buy them (I think its harder to buy in US)?  So the store normally has lots of lengths and guages and the syringes you buy separate from the needles and its very cheap just the problem was last time i went there they were out of 23 guage and only had 21 an 25 and i thought 25 is too small i remember reading before that 21 or 22 should be used but seems like most here use 23 or more?

[jerseymuscles113]

what do you mean in america they're color coded? like yea they're different colors but they still in by gauges its pretty easy to understand.....the smaller the number the bigger the needle.....for an easy reference a regular earring is 22g

[erokyrwrld]

23g is as big as will ever go.  Of course the 21g is leaving scar tissue.  Give its size, I surprised you don't have pock marks all over your delts. 

[Captain Equipoise]

23g-25g is ideal, anything bigger then a 22g is just stupid. Back in the day before there was micronized winstrol I could understand pinning with a 21g or 20g because the winstrol would crystalize and turn into chunks while you were trying to jam it in with a 23g. But now that we have micronized winny, you don't need that shit. I use 25g for 3/4 of my stuff goes in like butter..just takes a little longer then a 23g.

[Kentucky_cowboy]

I feel dumb for using so many 21 guage needles now

if i press my side delt i can feel little hard balls like marbles in there even if they havent been used as a site for about a week, same with my side thigh, maybe I take a break and start using 23 guage ones from now on

[Kentucky_cowboy]

what about glute shots also 21 guage too big for glutes u think?

[tstmaniac]

I feel dumb for using so many 21 guage needles now

if i press my side delt i can feel little hard balls like marbles in there even if they havent been used as a site for about a week, same with my side thigh, maybe I take a break and start using 23 guage ones from now on

if you have scar tissue that bad use 25 guage for now and try pinning different areas that dont have so much scar tissue...you can get an abcess from injecting into scar tissue

[Captain Equipoise]

what about glute shots also 21 guage too big for glutes u think?

22g1 for glute is fine, you can get away with 23g1

depends on what you're shooting too, it's stuff madee with ethyl oleate then you can use a 27g pin, lol..shootsl ike water.

[WillGrant]

Dude a 21 gauge is a fucking cannon for a delt.  I use a 23 gauge once in a while but mostly 25 gauge.  I'd definitely quit using a 21 gauge.  It's not necessary.   

bugger using a 25g , you will be there all day..23g for everything

[Kentucky_cowboy]

22g1 for glute is fine, you can get away with 23g1

depends on what you're shooting too, it's stuff madee with ethyl oleate then you can use a 27g pin, lol..shootsl ike water.

i prefer 1.5 inch for glute just because I am not that lean so I like to make sure it gets deep enough and I usually go in about 1.25 inches in my bum, but will definitely throw out my 21 guage pins and get 22 or 23 for glute and 23 for thigh and delt and maybe even 25 for delt. 

Yes the lab I use used to suspend in ethyl oleate now they make 50% ethyl oleate and 50% almond oil mix maybe since you are in canada too you might have an idea which lab but dont post it please

[MuscleMcMannus]

bugger using a 25g , you will be there all day..23g for everything

It's slower but well worth it in the long run.  I don't mind spending a minute injecting into a muscle. 

[Captain Equipoise]

It's slower but well worth it in the long run.  I don't mind spending a minute injecting into a muscle. 

Agreed totally.. I'm vain as hell, I don't want to look like a pincushion...esp. in suspicious places like delts and tri's