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getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« on: February 18, 2010, 08:05:16 AM »
2-3x a week I train at a local martial arts school. Its usually 1 or 2 days of jiu jitsu and one day of full contact sparring.

Lately I always end up fighting against the same guy at my school. He is 6'4, maybe 180 lbs with long ass legs and a big reach. I am 6'1 230 with alligator arms. We haven't gotten into shooting and takedowns yet, so all I can do to neutralize his reach is counter or clinch and throw knees.

I don't feel confident throwing kicks against this guy because in order for me to get close enough to connect I have to eat a few shots. When I do get in close and time my shots I can deliver some great hooks and body shots, but his long legs and reach are a pain in the ass.  Yesterday he threw an upper cut that clipped the side of my jaw and one of the fingers on his gloves sliced a big gash above my lip. Besides having to explain to everyone at work why I'm walking around with a fucking band aid below my nose, I want to make sure that next week if I end up going against him, I am going to make him pay. ( not to hurt him obviously because it's just sparring- but to figure out a way to counter him effectively)

Does anyone on the board have any advices on how to neutralize a guys reach and how to consistently and effectively counter a tall lanky dude without taking him down? 

Any help is appreciated. 

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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2010, 08:22:44 AM »
You can wait for him to plant his feet and time his jab,  when you start to time that (if he's an orthodox stance), slip your head to your right (away from his jab, not into it) and close the distance with a big step inwards, you can even dig a big right hook/uppercut to the body while doing it.  Once you've done that, keep your head in his chest and don't step back out into his range, just work from there.  You can double left hook (body/head) or whatever.  You can also try to juke him out with in/out, side to side foot work and head feints, get him thinking that you're going to be in his range and let him commit to throwing, then just time the punches he throws (maybe he throws the same couple of punches) and jump in with punches.  Just try and mix it up, monotony gets you timed and countered.
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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2010, 06:56:40 AM »
you cant jab at a guy bigger with a better reach, personally i palm-off the jab and come over from the side out of reach but you have to keep following up with combinations and circle

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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2010, 08:36:36 AM »
Does anyone on the board have any advices on how to neutralize a guys reach and how to consistently and effectively counter a tall lanky dude without taking him down?

Try either a tazer or a gun

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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2010, 09:55:22 AM »
LOL

Titus has given me the best advices so far.

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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2010, 10:32:14 AM »
quit and take up ballet you girl

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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2010, 11:02:10 AM »
You can wait for him to plant his feet and time his jab,  when you start to time that (if he's an orthodox stance), slip your head to your right (away from his jab, not into it) and close the distance with a big step inwards, you can even dig a big right hook/uppercut to the body while doing it.  Once you've done that, keep your head in his chest and don't step back out into his range, just work from there.  You can double left hook (body/head) or whatever.  You can also try to juke him out with in/out, side to side foot work and head feints, get him thinking that you're going to be in his range and let him commit to throwing, then just time the punches he throws (maybe he throws the same couple of punches) and jump in with punches.  Just try and mix it up, monotony gets you timed and countered.

I couldn't have said it any better. You read my mind CB. LOL

GW...you can basically work your combinations off the advice above imo...I agree 100% with CB...this is exactly how I spar with taller longer guys.....I get in their "chest" ...I use angles, pivot off all my combinations at the end and I never back out ever..I'm pretty much in my range to keep punching and there is no way I'll let a longer guy beat me inside...NO WAY..I'll drop him

...keep things in close quarter (phone booth) and drop body shots on the leaner guy..he'll fold over on your shoulders...he'll make a silent contract to tango with you b/c he's too tired to get out and use his range now.(that is if you are working him inside)

Once you get a longer guy to that stage...I call it "having no starch left" ..just like a shirt with no starch...he won't hold up, no snap on his jabs no more and I trust you...HE WON"T turn over his rights like earlier b/c it will take too much out him PLUS you should be smothering that right hand anyway on your way to his chest remember.

...plus you guys are going full (legs and all) so push kicks(front kicks) I normally use as my jab with guys my size or smaller in reach...but with taller guys I go 80-90% boxing on them. As soon as they kick, i'm in their chest also. I can't clinch a guy 6'3 I'm only 511, but I can time him and drop a looping right off his leg kick mighty mo style. lol

have fun. Now I feel like sparring. LOL

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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2010, 11:07:46 AM »
2-3x a week I train at a local martial arts school. Its usually 1 or 2 days of jiu jitsu and one day of full contact sparring.

Lately I always end up fighting against the same guy at my school. He is 6'4, maybe 180 lbs with long ass legs and a big reach. I am 6'1 230 with alligator arms. We haven't gotten into shooting and takedowns yet, so all I can do to neutralize his reach is counter or clinch and throw knees.

I don't feel confident throwing kicks against this guy because in order for me to get close enough to connect I have to eat a few shots. When I do get in close and time my shots I can deliver some great hooks and body shots, but his long legs and reach are a pain in the ass.  Yesterday he threw an upper cut that clipped the side of my jaw and one of the fingers on his gloves sliced a big gash above my lip. Besides having to explain to everyone at work why I'm walking around with a fucking band aid below my nose, I want to make sure that next week if I end up going against him, I am going to make him pay. ( not to hurt him obviously because it's just sparring- but to figure out a way to counter him effectively)

Does anyone on the board have any advices on how to neutralize a guys reach and how to consistently and effectively counter a tall lanky dude without taking him down? 

Any help is appreciated. 

First off you're a big pussy............number two at 6'4 180 he sounds like he's in good shape while you at 6'1 230 are a fat ass.  Lose some weight tubby and take up golf. 

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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2010, 11:09:17 AM »
First off you're a big pussy............number two at 6'4 180 he sounds like he's in good shape while you at 6'1 230 are a fat ass.  Lose some weight tubby and take up golf. 

LMAO .damn.

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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2010, 05:38:53 PM »
First off you're a big pussy............number two at 6'4 180 he sounds like he's in good shape while you at 6'1 230 are a fat ass.  Lose some weight tubby and take up golf. 

LOL ok there "Muscle McManus"-- Clearly I must be fat and a pussy because you said so. Do you have any other kinds of advice? With a name like "Muscle McManus" you obviously are in great shape and can kick everyones ass. Or, maybe I have it wrong and your handle is supposed to highlight the constant beating your rectum has taken over the years from your priest, step father and other male relatives.

Either way, thanks for chiming in!

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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2010, 08:43:36 AM »
I don't feel confident throwing kicks against this guy because in order for me to get close enough to connect I have to eat a few shots

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Like I said............. pussy............if you knew how to fight you wouldn't have to come on getbig of all places and post how to counter a taller opponent. 

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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2010, 01:18:36 PM »
And if you knew how to fight and had any life outside of pathetically trying to boost your internet persona, you wouldn't have responded to this thread.

How does not having any stand up fighting experience make me a pussy? Would Mike Tyson be a pussy for asking how to pass someones guard?  ::)

Instead trying to insult other people while making yourself look like a total jack ass in the process, go do what you usually do on the G+O board where you continue to dazzle everyone with your  imaginary stories of money, success and 1000lb lifts.

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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2010, 03:13:59 PM »
And if you knew how to fight and had any life outside of pathetically trying to boost your internet persona, you wouldn't have responded to this thread.

How does not having any stand up fighting experience make me a pussy? Would Mike Tyson be a pussy for asking how to pass someones guard?  ::)

Instead trying to insult other people while making yourself look like a total jack ass in the process, go do what you usually do on the G+O board where you continue to dazzle everyone with your  imaginary stories of money, success and 1000lb lifts.

Oh but you have no problem talking shit to me in other threads huh?  Like I said pussy.

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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2010, 06:10:10 PM »
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Get a life chump. Even for an internet tough guy with an inflated ego, you're a joke. Following me to the MMA board to "get back at me" for making you look like a retard on the political board is beyond childish.

Seek professional help.

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Re: getting hit and neutralizing your opponents reach
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2010, 08:03:05 PM »
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Get a life chump. Even for an internet tough guy with an inflated ego, you're a joke. Following me to the MMA board to "get back at me" for making you look like a retard on the political board is beyond childish.

Seek professional help.

 ::)  Nerd and a pussy.  Wow.