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The anti Fedor zombies
« on: April 08, 2010, 09:33:38 PM »
Anti-Fedor Zombies

by agonzalez1 » Tue Apr 06, 2010
Seems like there has been an upkick in the hogwash that is the Fedor Hating, baseless arguments to say that he isn't #1 P4P in the universe because he isn't surrounded by multiple walls of Chicken Wire (oh wait, he is) in the USA (oh shit, there's another one) fighting bigger guys that can put him on his back (fuck me...goddam) that he isn't worthy of the #1 P4P king.


Somehow, despite Fedor showing dominance in every aspect of martial arts for over a decade, it seems that it is all for naught lest he somehow go to the UFC to face their "elite" division.

(Okay, so Kimbo and Nelson are a stretch, lol)

Some of this stems from Dana Whites superb display of rhetoric (see: yelling like a domestic abuser) vs Ariel "Crocop is a disgrace to MMA" Helwani (See: Dana's lapdog aka an Iole aka Yahoo Sports).

The rest of it stems from an apparent resurgence in a "deep" UFC HW division.

Apparently the only competition that Fedor should fight has only recently surfaced...and only in the UFC....lets see:

First off we have Cain Velasquez and Frank Mir....

Cain was seen as the latest threat as he's out wrestled and out muscled everyone, including stopping Nogueria. Mir as well, tapped out the mighty giant (with a lil help from his friends) and too got a stoppage on Nogueira.

I'm sorry, but if stopping a man like Big Nog who was the #1 HW when Fedor simply put him through the meat grinder (similar to the way in which GSP puts the best in the WW..and you dont see anyone putting GSP down a notch for his grind-em-"dominating"-decisions?) back in Nog's heyday, what is the relevance when Fedor beat him at his best? Nog has seen better days, and surely people see that fact.

Then there is the fact that JDS and Shane Carwin are the KO artists that can lay Fedor to rest...

Again, my apologies, but since when is Fedor a bad striker? let alone bad at hitting his mark?
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We have those saying that competition outside the UFC sucks...

Brett Rogers
yes, he had an honest job, he did what he could to support himself and his family. Those comments are disgusting. The guy also never saw passed the 1st round, he was "SMASHING" every opponent until he met Abongo Humphrey who also was a KO artist. After the loss to Rogers, Humphrey went on to finish George Bush III in a SF card a few weeks ago..in the first round.

But i guess only Shane Carwin is the guy that Fedor has to fight...you know...since he doesn't get out of the first round..and can "SMASH" all comers.

Fabricio Werdum
Werdum is somehow thought of as an unworthy opponent...why so? certainly he is a better level than Thales Leites, Patrick Cote or Dan Hardy? Werdum was nothing short of making a comeback to defeat that "can" Mike Kyle (who had just dispatched of Rafael "Feijao" Cavalcante - a Blackhouse fighter...butI guess only Junior Dos Santos can get street cred solely for existing in that camp).

Werdum then dispatched of Antonio Silva, the EliteXC Champion, who ventured out of the 1st round only 2 times in his MMA career before facing Werdum. Needless to say, i suppose "not seeing the second round" was something that only Shane Carwin can use as a reason to show why he can fight Fedor.

It seems that somehow, Shane Carwin was granted a title shot with Lesnar for defeating Gabriel Gonzaga by KO...Lesnar though, fell ill and the match was postponed...

Then by some miracle...JDS was matched up with Gabriel Gonzaga, KO'd him..and is now on the back burner until he is ready for a Title Shot all his own.

Well..who else has dispatched of Gabriel Gonzaga before he was used goods in the UFC HW division:


Werdum was in the UFC and had a title shot in line to go up against the winner of Tim Sylvia and Big Nog, but that fell through with the Loss to JDS (this is the main reason Dana is protecting Cain/JDS..he doesn't want the contenders to lose between title shots)

So when I hear that Werdum isn't "worthy" "is a can" i just wanna do this:


Needless to say, Fedor is still fighting top ranked HWs, I'm sorry they aren't under the announcement by Bruce Buffer (oh wait, that already happened before..and unlike the other UFC HWs...Fedor has been introduced by the better Buffer:

) or on spiketv after TNA Impact, but Fedor is still in his prime, is still kicking lots of ass, and isn't bowing down to Dana White unlike some fighters that tried to stick up for themselves.

So please, do your own homework, stop with the same Dana-White-Kool-Aid-Anti-Fedor-Zombie-Rhetoric and get with the program:

Fedor is the #1 P4P fighter in MMA. He has been for many years, and will be for many to come.
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Re: anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #1 on: April 09, 2010, 05:56:42 AM »
There was an anti Cock Chesnar thread made yesterday that vanished in a few minutes, yet there are dozens of anti Fedor threads, most made by a mod that still linger around.     
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Re: anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #2 on: April 09, 2010, 06:03:47 AM »
While I agree that some of the hate is unwarranted, i.e. if "Fedor wins the fight is fixed, if he loses he's a bum" type of mentality, but you can take it to the other extreme and be an annoying guy too.

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Re: anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #3 on: April 09, 2010, 06:36:44 AM »
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Re: anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #4 on: April 09, 2010, 06:53:49 AM »
There was an anti Cock Chesnar thread made yesterday that vanished in a few minutes, yet there are dozens of anti Fedor threads, most made by a mod that still linger around.      

The title of the thread that was started yesterday stated false rumors like they were fact about Lesnar.

The thread title stated that Brock faked his illness and has been KO'd by Rodgers during sparring. If true it is meaningless sparring anywyas ::)

All lies and Rumors. If you are going to accuse/bash fighters with stuff like that, better post proof. That is most likely why it was removed.


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Re: anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #5 on: April 09, 2010, 06:56:05 AM »
The title of the thread that was started yesterday stated false rumors like they were fact about Lesnar.

The thread title stated that Brock faked his illness and has been KO's by Rodgers during sparring.

All lies and Rumors. If you are going to accuse/bash of stuff like that, better post proof. That is most likely why it was removed.

So you have proof Fedors fights are fixed?
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Re: anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #6 on: April 09, 2010, 06:58:01 AM »
So you have proof Fedors fights are fixed?

I do not...and anytime I have posted something like that it has been in a sarcastic response to a false rumor that was previously posted in a thread such as  Brock faking illness or getting KO'd by Rodgers etc.

Have I ever started a thread stating that Ferdor's fights are fixed?

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Re: anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #7 on: April 09, 2010, 07:05:04 AM »
While I agree that some of the hate is unwarranted, i.e. if "Fedor wins the fight is fixed, if he loses he's a bum" type of mentality, but you can take it to the other extreme and be an annoying guy too.

I see both sides of this argument as well. If you think Fedor is dodging top competition you are a 'newbie' or TUF wannabe UFC guy.
If you defend Fedor you are a delirious old timer who doesn't realize that the PRIDE days are long gone.

There is really no winning with Fedor. If he does sign with the UFC people will call him a sellout.
If doesn't there will always be the questions that 'could' effect his legacy.




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Re: The anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #8 on: April 09, 2010, 08:59:21 AM »
LOL- Who would call Fedor a sell out?

If he beats Werdum and then beats Overeem and retires as SF champ, goes to the UFC for a few fights and then quits, who in their right mind would call him a sell out?

The fact of the matter is that at this point he is the greatest MMA fighter to ever live, if he retired this instant. If he continues to fight and win, he continues to fight and win. Nobody (except for you and Mindspin) in their right mind could ever knock this guys resume especially if he remains undefeated.

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Re: The anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #9 on: April 09, 2010, 09:27:42 AM »
LOL- Who would call Fedor a sell out?

If he beats Werdum and then beats Overeem and retires as SF champ, goes to the UFC for a few fights and then quits, who in their right mind would call him a sell out?

The fact of the matter is that at this point he is the greatest MMA fighter to ever live, if he retired this instant. If he continues to fight and win, he continues to fight and win. Nobody (except for you and Mindspin) in their right mind could ever knock this guys resume especially if he remains undefeated.

I would never call Fedor a sellout. I feel quite the opposite. Fedor is a legend. I think he has a good chance of beating every HW out there.
I just want to see him to continue to fight the best.

IMO I would rather see him retire on top, then continue to fight guys like Werdum, Rodgers, etc.
No disrespect to those guys, they just are not deserving of fighting Fedor.

Brock and Carwin may not be deserving either, but currently those are the types of fights that most MMA fans want to see.
Call the fans TUF UFC nuthuggers or not, it is what it is. UFC fans currently make up the majority.

Winning against big names and popular fighters goes a long ways.

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Re: The anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #10 on: April 09, 2010, 11:41:09 AM »
Brock and Carwin may not be deserving either, but currently those are the types of fights that most MMA fans want to see.
Call the fans TUF UFC nuthuggers or not, it is what it is. UFC fans currently make up the majority.

Because "most" MMA fans are fat Tapout wearing Cheeto-choking manboobs that have no idea who Werdum, Overeem is.

It's the excellent UFC marketing that has given us this problem & us "true" fans just have to except it.
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Re: The anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #11 on: April 09, 2010, 12:51:28 PM »
Because "most" MMA fans are fat Tapout wearing Cheeto-choking manboobs that have no idea who Werdum, Overeem is.

It's the excellent UFC marketing that has given us this problem & us "true" fans just have to except it.

LOL...True, but I guess this is kind of true with most sports. You have the fans who really have a passion for the sport, and then you have the fans that read a few articles on the upcoming fight/game and think they are well educated, in reality having little understanding of the sport or it's history.

I am not mad though...all in all I love how big MMA has gotten. Nothing better than a bunch of people partying having a good time watching live fights on TV or in person.

The anticipation of a good fight is better then a lot of drugs.

You ever notice how amped you get watching a good fight? They are all so short it seems, but damm you can not beat the intensity! Everything seems to be put on hold for that short period of time.

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Re: anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2010, 12:55:26 PM »
There was an anti Cock Chesnar thread made yesterday that vanished in a few minutes, yet there are dozens of anti Fedor threads, most made by a mod that still linger around.     

Haha. Unfortunately, Mindspin is an immature, middle-aged fagg0t who I'm guessing is following through on that "ban" he gave me. Funny how he can fallaciously claim that Fedor's fights are fixed, though. Nothing wrong with that. One of the reasons why this board is the joke it is. Was much better when Ron demodded him.

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« Reply #13 on: April 09, 2010, 12:57:10 PM »
Haha. Unfortunately, Mindspin is an immature, middle-aged fagg0t who I'm guessing is following through on that "ban" he gave me. Funny how he can fallaciously claim that Fedor's fights are fixed, though. Nothing wrong with that. One of the reasons why this board is the joke it is. Was much better when Ron demodded him.

you should have said "I think" mindspin is an immature middle aged homo...then it would have been OK...
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Re: anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #14 on: April 09, 2010, 01:09:54 PM »
you should have said "I think" mindspin is an immature middle aged homo...then it would have been OK...

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Re: anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2010, 01:34:23 PM »
Haha. Unfortunately, Mindspin is an immature, middle-aged fagg0t who I'm guessing is following through on that "ban" he gave me. Funny how he can fallaciously claim that Fedor's fights are fixed, though. Nothing wrong with that. One of the reasons why this board is the joke it is. Was much better when Ron demodded him.

Actually despite all the shit-talking, disagreements, arguments, and Fedor nuthugging going on around here....this board is not too bad. Just a little dormant sometimes.




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Re: anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2010, 01:48:19 PM »
Haha. Unfortunately, Mindspin is an immature, middle-aged fagg0t who I'm guessing is following through on that "ban" he gave me. Funny how he can fallaciously claim that Fedor's fights are fixed, though. Nothing wrong with that. One of the reasons why this board is the joke it is. Was much better when Ron demodded him.

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Re: anti Fedor zombies
« Reply #17 on: April 09, 2010, 01:51:22 PM »
Dude you got to tell me who the lady is in you avt?????

Shay Laren. There are a few videos of her floating around out there.

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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2010, 01:54:21 PM »
Shay Laren. There are a few videos of her floating around out there.

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