igf equals hyperplasia

[flinstones1]

I read that  Lr3igf-1 ..... more effective at causing hyperplasia than gh does because the growth benefits of gh come from increased igf levels once the gh is destroyed in the body.

I have been informed there is 0 evidence that hyperplasia can actually occur, but assuming it does here is my question.

since both peptides raise IGF levels in the body which one would be more effective at creating new muscle cells?



 

[Luolamies]

If the only goal is muscle growth, I'd go with Igf...

[tbombz]

is IGF-1 responsible for the growth effects of GH?

maybe. but it woudlnt be normal igf-1, it would be liver igf-1. (for more on this id suggest doing some research.. MD had a good article on it a while back, might try diggint that up)


GH is related to over 400 different growth mechanisms/messengers/pathways in the body. only one of them is igf-1.

another one hypothesized to be of great importance if MGF (mechano growth factor)






for now, AAS is the only staple. GH and t3 are both worthy drugs as well. AAS for size. GH for lean gains, overall thickness/roundness, and skin beauty. t3 for fat loss. 

[dustin]

for now, AAS is the only staple. GH and t3 are both worthy drugs as well. AAS for size. GH for lean gains, overall thickness/roundness, and skin beauty. t3 for fat loss. 

This.

Don't worry about what you read about GH and IGF-1 on paper. Just be concerned with what they do in real life, the prices you're paying and most importantly the LEGITIMACY of what you're purchasing. There's a lot of bunk out there so be cautious.

If you can get legit GH, blast a TON of it or use a small amount for a very long period of time in conjunction with test/AAS and T3. If you're confident enough and have stable blood sugar levels, try some insulin as well. Other than this, no other drugs are necessary. Clen is a waste of time and a heart hazard, and nothing else is safe enough, cheap enough and effective enough to justify. Nothing else is really needed unless you're down with wasting hard earned money. If you can afford that, please consider sponsoring my drug regimen. It will be greatly appreciated

[jayfromeurope]

I agree with Dustin.

Unless you have really good dealer it's hard to find legit GH or IGF-1. When I see the price of like 48 UI in a real pharmacy and then I see the price over internet, even without using the stuff I know its not legit.

As for my study I had the privilege to go in Lilly's fabric (manufactory) and wawoo, I was in the heaven, anyway I saw couples of good things but I could not go everywhere in the manufactory. very restricted.

And sadly they did not gave me some Humatrop(e) sample  

Hope my english is ok.

[flinstones1]

is IGF-1 responsible for the growth effects of GH?

maybe. but it woudlnt be normal igf-1, it would be liver igf-1. (for more on this id suggest doing some research.. MD had a good article on it a while back, might try diggint that up)


GH is related to over 400 different growth mechanisms/messengers/pathways in the body. only one of them is igf-1.

another one hypothesized to be of great importance if MGF (mechano growth factor)






for now, AAS is the only staple. GH and t3 are both worthy drugs as well. AAS for size. GH for lean gains, overall thickness/roundness, and skin beauty. t3 for fat loss.  

if the effect of gh is increased igf levels released from the liver, and  is different than the igf produced the muscle , why is GH still thought to create new muscle cells?
Or am I totally off base here?

Also tbombz you seem to be a big fan of t3 even for bulking why screw with a healthy thyroid?

[flinstones1]

This.

Don't worry about what you read about GH and IGF-1 on paper. Just be concerned with what they do in real life, the prices you're paying and most importantly the LEGITIMACY of what you're purchasing. There's a lot of bunk out there so be cautious.

If you can get legit GH, blast a TON of it or use a small amount for a very long period of time in conjunction with test/AAS and T3. If you're confident enough and have stable blood sugar levels, try some insulin as well. Other than this, no other drugs are necessary. Clen is a waste of time and a heart hazard, and nothing else is safe enough, cheap enough and effective enough to justify. Nothing else is really needed unless you're down with wasting hard earned money. If you can afford that, please consider sponsoring my drug regimen. It will be greatly appreciated

I was actually planning on starting GH in September but now that I have calculated it out I would only have enough for 10 IU per week
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6IU per day for 30 weeks would do the trick Im sure, but that would be asking for acromology.

[kevinf]

I was actually planning on starting GH in September but now that I have calculated it out I would only have enough for 10 IU per week
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6IU per day for 30 weeks would do the trick Im sure, but that would be asking for acromology.

u think 6IU would be enuff to give u acromegaly? why
i think its impossible to try to predict an X amount of gh would give you acromegaly unless you actaully try it. look at Ron Coleman, he runs butsloads of gh and has no signs of Acromegaly. i noticed that a lot of the black pros(all who obv abuse gh like no tomorrow) do not get acromegaly(heath, dex, ron, winklar..etc etc)..yet the white pros seem to have acromegaly like its the new hot look for the season. whats up with that?